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Should Dora go out with Jim?
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 24 Jun 2011, 17:26 ---I am pretty sure I have not personally attacked anyone, but if I do, I'd appreciate knowing.
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I don't think so either. But some messages in a couple of threads (not only yours) have been somewhat uncivil in a more generic way. Two mods have noted this, and my finger hovered over a lock button yesterday.
I suppose it's fair to note that I view Jeph's twitter comment as a bit of a challenge to show that this forum can be kept behaving reasonably, so I'm being a bit strict at present in applying the rules.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 24 Jun 2011, 14:24 ---...but I still disagree with you. I understand that you're trying to lessen my feelings of disdain for Faye in some way, and it's not going to happen.
I see absolutely nothing good in her, at all. As far as I'm concerned she's a completely useless character.
Yeah, I'm getting mad over a fictional character, but I wouldn't get this mad if bitches like her didn't actually exist in real life. They do, and they make the world shittier for being in it.
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I wasn't so much trying to lessen your disdain, but rather to get you to see the other side of the Faye coin. Since you steadfastly refuse to even try, my work is done.
I never said anything about it being successful...
Oh, and yes I'm male, and older (but not as old as pwhodges ;)). And no, I've not forgotten what it was like to be a tortured nerd through school. That's why I don't go to reunions - I have friends and family, I don't need to revisit the dicks, bitches and assholes I went to school with. Oddly enough, a few found my facebook account and implored me to come to our umptieth reunion. Seems they'd grown a conscience and wanted to make amends. I began to write one of them back that, had any of them bothered to treat me as a human, I would have considered it.
Then I deleted the letter. Spite gets you nowhere. I thanked them for thinking of me, but no, I was not interested in attending, and left it at that.
I sincerely hope that you'll get past your own tormentors successfully. Most of mine were just bored, cruel kids driven by peer pressure. Some may have been like Faye, lashing out against an unfair world, dealing with deep emotional scars, but I doubt it. Faye's more than just a grown-up bully, and we have the rare opportunity to see that, something we never get in real life.
NotAwesomeAnymore:
--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 24 Jun 2011, 18:14 ---I can't help noticing the people who excuse Faye's actions are male (and therefore not victims in that way of the real life Fayes) and older (forgotten what it feels like).
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I'm a teenage girl :| And I've been a victim, of people with some qualities similar to Faye's, but not of Fayes. I also get how much it sucks that the quiet person in the media is always just portrayed as 'the quiet person', since you mentioned Marigold.
If I met Faye in real life (this is so weird) she would make me feel anxious because I wouldn't know how to handle her and I would feel like her treatment of me was because I wasn't 'cool enough'. But after a while it would develop into,"That's just Faye" and I wouldn't take it personally. The thing that I think is different about her is she's not a 'pretty girl' nor is she that arrogant 'smart girl' who tries to make people feel stupid. No malice, nothing directed at specific people, no hidden agendas. Sometimes I say tactless things without thinking. I'm not physically violent, but I have tendency to shoot nasty looks when I'm annoyed. I actually can't control this stuff! When I try to explain, I get the "BUT STILL, you should have paid more attention." I think you don't excuse Faye's behaviour because you don't realise you are a lot more socially apt than she is in that way. You already know how to be nice (and it is totes a skill that you learn and it doesn't always make you a more moral person) and it comes easily to you. Unlike others who struggle to control their feelings and see Faye as an exaggerated version of their problem. I hope nobody like you has ever been a victim of mine.
(I'm sorry! I meant for that to only be two lines! If this means nothing to you, fan, then you don't have to respond.)
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 24 Jun 2011, 22:20 ---If Dora was so insecure about Marten's ex-nothing, how is she going to cope with an ex-wife?
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--- Quote from: wrwight on 24 Jun 2011, 22:57 ---Well, as one who has both an ex-nothing and an ex-wife, I can say they are very different (and not varying degrees of the same), and I'm not sure which would be more difficult to deal with for a potential girlfriend. On the one hand an ex-nothing represents something that still has possibility, even if neither party wishes to pursue that possibility. An ex-wife on the other hand represents someone you pledged your entire life to, and then it didn't work out. While it's very easy for that flame to rekindle, it's much more likely that due to the long drawn out process that is divorce, your rational mind will overtake your impulsive thoughts, and nothing is likely to happen.
I can see how it would be intimidating though to know that there's someone else out there that your potential SO cared enough about to commit to marriage. That might mess with my head a little.
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Ex-nothing can be so-o-o-ooo much worse than ex-something! And it's the worst that it gets sort of dismissed as a non-problem because two people never banged. It's probably the only thing I can really relate to Dora with. When people (at least, immature people) are crushing on someone their vision of the relationship is perfect. There are no fights, any differences in opinion are just the palatable ones, the potential SO is supportive about everything etc. But with relationships, reality comes in and ruins everything. I dated a guy who was still very close with an ex-nothing.Steve sums up the problem in a way that sounds more sane than if Dora would've said it. It was like, every time I had a fight with that guy or I messed up, I would think,"Ugh, I bet this never happened in the pretend relationship he had in his head with X!" and that's what I felt I was competing with. With a real ex, you know they had their own problems and it ended because of a realistic reason. I either just made a lot of sense, or exposed myself as a total wacko.
I don't know, though, the way Dora's brain works. But hopefully Jim isn't living with his ex-wife.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 24 Jun 2011, 22:20 ---If Dora was so insecure about Marten's ex-nothing, how is she going to cope with an ex-wife?
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I can't help but think of something along the lines of Dora's head exploding.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 25 Jun 2011, 02:18 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 24 Jun 2011, 22:20 ---If Dora was so insecure about Marten's ex-nothing, how is she going to cope with an ex-wife?
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--- Quote from: wrwight on 24 Jun 2011, 22:57 ---Well, as one who has both an ex-nothing and an ex-wife, I can say they are very different (and not varying degrees of the same), and I'm not sure which would be more difficult to deal with for a potential girlfriend...
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Ex-nothing can be so-o-o-ooo much worse than ex-something! And it's the worst that it gets sort of dismissed as a non-problem because two people never banged. It's probably the only thing I can really relate to Dora with. When people (at least, immature people) are crushing on someone their vision of the relationship is perfect. There are no fights, any differences in opinion are just the palatable ones, the potential SO is supportive about everything etc. But with relationships, reality comes in and ruins everything. I dated a guy who was still very close with an ex-nothing.Steve sums up the problem in a way that sounds more sane than if Dora would've said it. It was like, every time I had a fight with that guy or I messed up, I would think,"Ugh, I bet this never happened in the pretend relationship he had in his head with X!" and that's what I felt I was competing with. With a real ex, you know they had their own problems and it ended because of a realistic reason. I either just made a lot of sense, or exposed myself as a total wacko.
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Excellent analysis, and a great catch on the comic! I never related Steve's problem with Dave to Dora's issue with Faye, but damn, that's a close parallel!
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