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Why does Dora need therapy?
pwhodges:
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What is wrong with parts of this thread is the too free assertion of opinions as absolutes. All we actually know about the fictional world we discuss here is the actual content of the strips, and a selection of remarks by Jeph in the comments and elsewhere. Everything else we say about the strip is conjecture, and we cannot appropriately say that people are wrong to disagree with us if we cannot quote one of those sources to demonstrate it.
As for discussion of things beyond the strip, like the nature or usefulness of therapy/counselling, or other matters of that sort, please try not to be too dogmatic unless you can again quote suitable authority, or call on persuasive personal experience. Second-hand anecdotes are not enough.
Also remember that this forum is occupied by people (a) from many different countries (so words and concepts in a puzzling post might not mean what you think), and (b) from many stages of life (the range of ages of people who contribute here runs from 17 years or less up to 70 years).
That said, the present discussion has managed to remain pretty polite (which in past times it might not have done), and I'd like to thank everyone for that. But some attention to the matters I've laid out here might make it easier.
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TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 15 Jun 2011, 06:58 ---What is wrong with parts of this thread is the too free assertion of opinions as absolutes. All we actually know about the fictional world we discuss here is the actual content of the strips, and a selection of remarks by Jeph in the comments and elsewhere. Everything else we say about the strip is conjecture, and we cannot appropriately say that people are wrong to disagree with us if we cannot quote one of those sources to demonstrate it.
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Thats pretty much been my point the last few posts I've made. All we saw were opinions on why Dora should not have been in therapy, while others who believed she should be, made the effort to trawl through the archives looking for the comics that confirmed that Dora needed to speak to a professional.
TRVA123:
It seems that everyone who has put forth why Dora should be in therapy has given the same reasons:
1. Dora has severe insecurities and trust issues surrounding her relationship with her brother Sven
2. Dora has severe insecurities and trust issues surrounding her ability to sustain a healthy romantic relationship.
3. Dora has admitted that these issues interfere with her romantic goals in a negative sense.
Everyone who has put forth that Dora doesn't need therapy is asserting that the reasons Dora doesn't need therapy are:
1. Dora's work related life is in good order, and as long as her issues don't affect her career she has a healthy outlook.
2. Dora's relationship centered issues are justified because of a previous romantic relationship between Marten and Faye.
3. Dora's insecurities and trust issues are a part of her core personality and to try to change those would alter Dora's character in a needlessly drastic way.
I'm just trying to summarize both sides of the discussion. I think that the original topic question has been answered numerous times, with different people rephrasing similar ideas.
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 15 Jun 2011, 08:22 ---It seems that everyone who has put forth why Dora should be in therapy has given the same reasons:
1. Dora has severe insecurities and trust issues surrounding her relationship with her brother Sven
2. Dora has severe insecurities and trust issues surrounding her ability to sustain a healthy romantic relationship.
3. Dora has admitted that these issues interfere with her romantic goals in a negative sense.
Everyone who has put forth that Dora doesn't need therapy is asserting that the reasons Dora doesn't need therapy are:
1. Dora's work related life is in good order, and as long as her issues don't affect her career she has a healthy outlook.
2. Dora's insecurities and trust issues are a part of her core personality and to try to change those would alter Dora's character in a needlessly drastic way.
Everyone who has put forth concepts that have nothing to do with whether Dora needs therapy or not:
1. Dora's relationship centered issues specifically with regard to Marten are justified because of a previous romantic relationship between Marten and Faye.
I'm just trying to summarize both sides of the discussion. I think that the original topic question has been answered numerous times, with different people rephrasing similar ideas.
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Fixed that for you.
stoutfiles:
--- Quote from: Torlek on 15 Jun 2011, 06:15 ---
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 15 Jun 2011, 05:44 ---
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 14 Jun 2011, 17:44 ---However, the move was the beginning of the end, in retrospect.
Originally, just like when they started going out, she initiated the idea, and she wanted him to move in with her. Faye was the one who was more pragmatic about it, saying it'd be easier for all of them, money-wise, if she moved in with them.
Unfortunately, Dora could never overcome her irrational fear that Marten still held a torch for Faye - and the no-pants moment linked previously caused that fear to come back full-blown after months/years/whatevers-in-QC-time of being suppressed.
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, is why Dora needs therapy.
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The fear isn't irrational, if right now Faye dumped Angus and said she loved Marten, he'd be all over her. Dora liked Marten but questioned Martens commitment when he liked Faye at the time and just goes with things. It was doomed from the start.
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, is why we can't come into threads and declare our opinions the only valid ones, and then try to kill any follow up with silly tags.
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Pot, kettle, black. This thread is like a game of rhetorical whack-a-mole.
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I state my opinions but do not try to end conversation with an "I'm right, and let's end the thread now" tag. Like I said before, this is an opinionated topic as therapy isn't as cut and dry as say, my needing to breathe air. If someone wants to live they need oxygen, but if someone has problems they don't necessarily need therapy. They might solve their problems on their own, given some time. Sure, Dora could use therapy like the whole QC cast could use therapy. But at this current juncture, do I think she needs it? Neh, just some more time. Looks like she's even getting along with Sven too for helping out after the breakup. I think shell be ok, but that's just my opinion, I'm not saying my opinion is the right one but I will defend it the best I can.
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