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Why does Dora need therapy?

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Blackjoker:
If I may make some points here from my own perspective on the comic/topic.

1) Dora has had several freakouts over things that Marten has done, there was her little rampage when he got his hair cut and didn't consult her on it. There was the time when Cossette flirted with him back before we knew her name, Dora found out about it because she mentioned it, and then Dora decided to lay a trap for Marten (this one might be iffy for some people admittedly). Marten wouldn't have cheated on her, hadn't and in fact was often very nice to her and tried to do things to make her happy. The big problems I had with her involved the hug incident and later on what led to the breakup.

2) Dora had realized that she had behaved irrationally when she looked at what occurred, in some cases even a few minutes afterwards and kept mentioning that she needed to get it dealt with and yet never did. She made sure that Faye went to see her therapist (which was a good thing) but pretty much had to be physically threatened by Faye to do it. Doras issues weren't as large as Fayes but they were still there, she was paranoid and didn't trust those around her. She also tended to jump to conclusions and ignored other peoples boundaries.

3) In vino veritas is essentially a lie flavored with truth. Alcohol makes you less inhibited, so yes you might not use your mental filter as much as you would normally and will instead just say what comes to mind. However, it also means that you aren't thinking about things as often and your thought process is rather clouded. Presumably if you think that a drunken person is totally truthful then when they sing atonally and often badly and say how great they sound their thoughts would be the same sober? Martens commentary was anger and bitterness, he had been dumped by Dora after she violated boundaries and got self righteous when he pointed out that her actions were unfair and rude. He was angry because he felt like he had been a nice guy and yet fate kept kicking him in the junk, he was angry because Dora chose her own insecurities over him, and Faye happened to be the target next to him and she was yelled at both for some of his own inner frustration with her, some of his anger at that time at the female half of the human race, and yeah there was probably some feeling for her still lingering but I don't think it exists the way it used to.

4) It's also worth noting here that Marten has had to put up with a lot more crap, much of it undeserved, than what Dora has had to deal with. When his mother came to visit she seemed to be there to rub salt in wounds along with adding a few fresh cuts. Steve just added more trouble to all of it, in fact Faye and Hannelore were among the only people really trying to help Marten and their help was sometimes mixed at times. Dora received a lot more support and help from those involved even though Faye was angry enough to clock her or at least yell until her throat gave out, so there is that factor too.

5) Just a comment on the A and B thing, if we're going to take that track then every person who isn't your first love should feel slighted?

gprimr1:
Does anyone remember the strip where Marten tells Dora he was helping sick Hanners, he put her on the sofa and she wasn't wearing a bra and he saw everything? She almost didn't care if I remember.

Blackjoker:

--- Quote from: gprimr1 on 10 Jun 2011, 19:47 ---Does anyone remember the strip where Marten tells Dora he was helping sick Hanners, he put her on the sofa and she wasn't wearing a bra and he saw everything? She almost didn't care if I remember.

--- End quote ---

Actually it was kind of adorable, she hugged him and said "At least I know I can trust you, if you cheated on me the guilt would make your head explode." or something to that extent.

celticgeek:


Marten And Hanners Boob.

DSL:
That is the one confusing aspect ... Not Hanners's boob, but the unpredictability of Dora's mistrust. Cosette's flirt and the resulting broadsword and trap, The haircut. Innocent remarks by the other women in the cast taken as threats. The Underpants Incident. Contrast those with Dora's offering to let Marten "fall asleep in a pile of ladies," or telling an unsuspecting female customer (who is tired of being propositioned for a threesome in every coffeeshop in town ...)  " my boyfriend thinks you're cute." The one consistency I can find is that Dora's OK with it, whatever it is, as long as it's her idea, and she's in control. It might be more subconscious than malicious -- she does on occasion display compassion and maybe empathy, particularly if she can assume the mother/older sister/superior role -- but the desire to be the one making the decision is there.
After all ( just to take this back to the obvious place) she didn't feel herself to be in control when Sven was coasting through both their childhoods.
Dang, I hope if Jeph ever draws Dora's therapist, he looks like me.

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