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WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)

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ChibiSoma:
Good to see Marten remains a giant wetnap who still wants his hateful bitch of a girlfriend back for... some fuckin' reason or another.

Yeah, I don't get it. Remove self from awful relationship -> Prosper. This does not work if you sit around pining for the past. Then again, this is QC, so they'll eventually get the hell back together. Because nothing unexpected can happen. Marty won't suddenly grow a pair of balls again and stay hooked up with someone else. He'll mope around and be a giant pussy and somehow defend Dora's honor with Creepy Rapey Bakery Guy tries to push her beyond her comfort zone or... whatever happens later in this story arc.

Meanwhile, Tai gets to be miserable. Remember, kids: Actually wanting to be with someone and trying to achieve this goal rarely works. I can only assume that while Dora is on her date with Mr. Lolipedo, Tai and Marten will be somewhere, drinking Depressios and bitching about Dora sucking.

Hey, I can dream.

JackFaerie:

--- Quote from: Boomslang on 13 Jun 2011, 05:08 ---I think the Dora-bashing would mostly go away if there was any sense she felt guilty. As it is, the consequences of her actions to other people barely seem to blip occasionally, let alone factor into her future decisions.

Aside from a brief moment of crying when Faye confronted her, she's had nothing but love and sympathy from the rest of the cast (including Marten's own mother), good things keep happening to her despite her screwups, and she is, by most measures, happier now that she's dumped Marten.

That seems wrong, somehow. I don't wish a lifetime of pain and suffering, but her current situation makes me envious more than it arouses sympathy.


--- End quote ---

What the hell. Dora has not done anything over which she needs to feel GUILTY. Not far as the breakup goes anyway.

She was turning into a shitty girlfriend to Marten due to her insecurity, and constantly going off on him for no reason. While she was still dating him, that she should have felt bad about. But she didn't do anything wrong far as the actual break-up. She didn't cheat on Marten. She didn't dump him and then immediately hook up with Steve instead. She didn't dump him out of the blue and refuse to give him any explanation. She didn't break up with him via text message, or actively tried to treat him badly so that he had to break up with her. All she did was realize that the relationship wasn't working--for either of them--and ended it.

That is not something she needs to feel "guilty" about.

Yes, her issues were what mostly lead it to not working, although with another person they may not have manifested in the same way. But once she realized the relationship wasn't working because she was taking her issues out on Marten and ended the relationship, she doesn't owe anything more to him. Once she stopped inflicting her issues on Marten, that's it. She's done. She doesn't OWE it to Marten to be in a relationship with him, or to get herself into shape until she could be in a relationship with him. Would it be nice if she got her issues resolved? Sure. But it's not something she owes anyone but herself.

I am really confused by this idea that one isn't allowed to call off a relationship that they no longer feel is satisfying, or that they should feel like a horrible person for doing so. I still feel that if anything, Dora did Marten a favor by cutting the cord, because he wasn't going to do it himself, and he would have just let things deteriorate until it was absolutely miserable for everyone.

Dust:

--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 13 Jun 2011, 09:23 ---And for the monster comments; Faye's Frankenstein, Dora's the werewolf, Raven's Baba Yaga, Pen-Pen is the mummy, sleep deprived Hanners is the ghoul (zombie for you ignorant types) and Cosette is Gillman (Black Lagoon, only clumsier, because, well, fish creature on land). Steve and Pintsize will probably think themselves to be the fearless Vampire Hunters while Marten is probably Jonathan Harkness while his exes can be Dracula's brides.

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Do later characters count as later monsters? Because Dale would be Candyman.

St.Clair:
Poor Tai.*  Someone sniped her co-worker's ex before she could.


*not really.

ZERO:
I want Marten's shirt.

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