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WCDT 20-24 June (1951-1955)
NotAwesomeAnymore:
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--- Quote from: akronnick on 20 Jun 2011, 23:29 ---Could it be that Dora is feeling somewhat uneasy about the date and is trying to pick a fight with Faye so she can play the victim?
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Mayyyyyybeee.
--- Quote ---Could it be that she only agreed to the date because she knew that her friends would think it was a bad idea?
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DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winnah!
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My goodness. Dora can't do anything normal? She probably isn't quite sure about the date, for reasons she hasn't said but which have been pointed out. And she would've been made even less sure when Faye freaked out about it after finding out. I don't see any victim play here. I see her genuinely confused about why Faye is suddenly okay with it (with an angry face on for the sake of comedy). And what evidence is there that she did this to spite her friends? Faye is the only one who thinks it's a bad idea, and I don't recall Dora ever doing something like that before.
--- Quote from: akronnick on 21 Jun 2011, 01:53 ---I think it would be more likely for her to go on the date and talk about how fucked up her relationship with Marten was and how fucked up Sven is and how wrong everything everybody she knows does is.
In short, she'd act like an ass, and not even realize it. Just like her therapy session (at which she wasn't an asshole, that's what she's there for.)
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I doubt she will have a total whinefest on her date with Jim. She might have issues, but she's not socially awkward.
grimeyville:
--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 21 Jun 2011, 07:30 ---
My goodness. Dora can't do anything normal? She probably isn't quite sure about the date, for reasons she hasn't said but which have been pointed out. And she would've been made even less sure when Faye freaked out about it after finding out. I don't see any victim play here. I see her genuinely confused about why Faye is suddenly okay with it (with an angry face on for the sake of comedy). And what evidence is there that she did this to spite her friends? Faye is the only one who thinks it's a bad idea, and I don't recall Dora ever doing something like that before.
I doubt she will have a total whinefest on her date with Jim. She might have issues, but she's not socially awkward.
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Well not spite so much but...
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1946
Feigning ignorance, I'd like to say. No one started drama but her, arguably. She pussy-footed around the issue as much as Marten did.
It’s all speculation but what if Dora just hops into bed with him on the first date. That would be entirely too fast and ridiculous but I’d find it entirely believable if they’re sitting at a restaurant, and Dora sees Marten pass by the window, but Marten is too sucked in his own thoughts to notice Dora, or Jim. He’s just thinking things over on his way to the party, words of encouragement by Faye, and so on. Rather than make one theory however, I’m gonna take a few guesses on where our little date goes. I am not sure how that party may go, besides Marten either meeting a girl, or not meeting anyone and… Being completely happy with that.
~ On Dora’s side it’s the most awkward date in history, and on Jim’s, he thinks he’s in some strange state of love and he’s finally found a woman he can really relate to. Shenanigans ensue and misunderstandings and they’re lucky if they keep the whole business deal shebangabang going.
~ Dora and Jim complain to each other about all the horrible things that happen to them. Dora may either realize that this is what she does to her friends all the time, and how much she makes herself look like a victim… Or she’ll reason that this is part of being a strong, mature adult, all that whining and complaining, reason out that she no longer needs a therapist, and continue seeing Jim.
~ Adding to that, Jim may just lavish her on with a string of compliments; say the right things about Marten whenever he’s brought up and Dora will likely get sucked into it and him.
~ Dora complains, complains, and complains, Jim just takes it in, and says this was a kind of bad idea, I thought you were mature, so on and so forth, and “that Marten guy put up with a lot from you”, and Dora feels like… Crap.
~ Things are going well, Dora decides to show up at the party with Jim and… That will just not end well no matter how you look at it.
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: grimeyville on 21 Jun 2011, 07:47 ---
--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 21 Jun 2011, 07:30 ---
My goodness. Dora can't do anything normal? She probably isn't quite sure about the date, for reasons she hasn't said but which have been pointed out. And she would've been made even less sure when Faye freaked out about it after finding out. I don't see any victim play here. I see her genuinely confused about why Faye is suddenly okay with it (with an angry face on for the sake of comedy). And what evidence is there that she did this to spite her friends? Faye is the only one who thinks it's a bad idea, and I don't recall Dora ever doing something like that before.
I doubt she will have a total whinefest on her date with Jim. She might have issues, but she's not socially awkward.
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Well not spite so much but...
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1946
Feigning ignorance, I'd like to say. No one started drama but her, arguably. She pussy-footed around the issue as much as Marten did.
It’s all speculation but what if Dora just hops into bed with him on the first date. That would be entirely too fast and ridiculous but I’d find it entirely believable if they’re sitting at a restaurant, and Dora sees Marten pass by the window, but Marten is too sucked in his own thoughts to notice Dora, or Jim. He’s just thinking things over on his way to the party, words of encouragement by Faye, and so on. Rather than make one theory however, I’m gonna take a few guesses on where our little date goes. I am not sure how that party may go, besides Marten either meeting a girl, or not meeting anyone and… Being completely happy with that.
~ On Dora’s side it’s the most awkward date in history, and on Jim’s, he thinks he’s in some strange state of love and he’s finally found a woman he can really relate to. Shenanigans ensue and misunderstandings and they’re lucky if they keep the whole business deal shebangabang going.
~ Dora and Jim complain to each other about all the horrible things that happen to them. Dora may either realize that this is what she does to her friends all the time, and how much she makes herself look like a victim… Or she’ll reason that this is part of being a strong, mature adult, all that whining and complaining, reason out that she no longer needs a therapist, and continue seeing Jim.
~ Adding to that, Jim may just lavish her on with a string of compliments; say the right things about Marten whenever he’s brought up and Dora will likely get sucked into it and him.
~ Dora complains, complains, and complains, Jim just takes it in, and says this was a kind of bad idea, I thought you were mature, so on and so forth, and “that Marten guy put up with a lot from you”, and Dora feels like… Crap.
~ Things are going well, Dora decides to show up at the party with Jim and… That will just not end well no matter how you look at it.
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I still think this scenario from the thread talking about it will be the best one:
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--- Quote from: O8h7w on 10 Jun 2011, 11:48 ---
--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 10 Jun 2011, 08:54 ---I also think this answers my question about whether she feels the same about Jim. She is still thinking about him when Tai comes in, and it seems like she's kind of scared, like "What did I do?"
I think it's obvious now that it's not a business dinner. I think she likes him too... : )
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We don't know. The one who said 'date' was Raven, and she is likely to say that at any given chance. Most likely is that one of the parties thinks it's a business date and one thinks it's a pleasure date, since that is the funniest setup. :mrgreen:
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Jim thinks it's all business, Dora throws herself at him only to get a "Child, please." response.
That would be the funniest thing to happen, plus it would probably help snap Dora into actually doing something to better herself on a personal level once she realized what depths she let herself sink to.
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cuzsis:
So it sounds like Faye is going to the party too. That's cool. I'd like to see her and Marten hang out again. They're the original driving force of the strip and we hardly ever seem them together anymore.
seaflower:
--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 21 Jun 2011, 07:30 ---My goodness. Dora can't do anything normal? She probably isn't quite sure about the date, for reasons she hasn't said but which have been pointed out. And she would've been made even less sure when Faye freaked out about it after finding out. I don't see any victim play here. I see her genuinely confused about why Faye is suddenly okay with it (with an angry face on for the sake of comedy). And what evidence is there that she did this to spite her friends? Faye is the only one who thinks it's a bad idea, and I don't recall Dora ever doing something like that before.
I doubt she will have a total whinefest on her date with Jim. She might have issues, but she's not socially awkward.
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Thank god there is someone sane on this forum. I agree with your post.
Dora has issues but some of the post on this forums tries to make Dora out to be an evil person. To be honest for someone who is insecure, Dora made a really bad mistake starting a relationship with Marten before the issue with him and Faye had time to heal and dealing with her own shit. An insecure person dating a passive person is never a good thing.
At least she did the smart thing and realize she was the problem and ended the relationship. Marten's whole "let me be the emo bitch boy who does nothing and complains when things go badly" thing is just as bad as Dora's trust issues.
Faye's first reaction to Dora's date and Dora's reaction to Faye being reasonable is a good example of why really tight and define social circles can be problematic. Everyone expects you to act in a certain way and there is a lot of judgment pass on what you say and do. Faye and Dora are both being stupid.
To be honest, I'm kind of happy Dora has a date with Jim. I don't see it working out romantically but I think they could become friends. I think Dora needs someone in her life who isn't a friend of Marten's (for the moment) and/or her employee. Maybe this date with Jim will give them some emotional support they can't get from their social group.
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