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WCDT: Independence Day Week (4 - 8 July, 1961-1965)
Mightyanvil:
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--- Quote from: Mightyanvil on 05 Jul 2011, 09:41 ---Why? Do I need to modify my perspective for a reason? It is my perspective, I don't change it to fit the situation, I use it to judge my outlook on it.
My perspective is who I am, I don't change it to suit a reason, that way lies conviction-less life. Have the courage to stand by your convictions rather than change it to fit into some mold someone else designed.
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Sometimes convictions are incorrect. Quote from a Consequentialism FAQ:
--- Quote ---Consider as a metaphor the process of discovering an optical illusion. Our sensory intuitions play the same role in the physical world that our moral intuitions play in the moral world; they are our first and only source of data.
However, sometimes our sensory intuitions are false. For example, an rod that looks bent as it enters the water may in fact be straight. We discover this by noticing that this sense-datum of bendiness conflicts both other immediate sense data, like how the object feels when we touch it, and rules gathered from a long history of interacting with sense-data (like that solid objects don't instantly bend of their own accord).
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Point is, you can't always tell when you're wrong, especially when you have limited experience to work with. One way to correct misconceptions is having them pointed out by people with different experiences, essentially increasing the amount of data you have to work with.
And what will Dora being 'punished' accomplish? She's not harming Marten anymore and she's working on fixing the problem.
I have a problem with people who take offence on behalf of Marten. Doing that doesn't help nothin' since someone who borrows offence doesn't know how it actually felt for the person, and thus doesn't know what compensation is adequate.
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That is what having the courage of your convictions is all about. The willingness to be wrong. There is merit in being flexible, I will give you. But there is also something to be said for making a decision based on a set of variables. To never make your own decisions and always look to other people to solve issues for you, isn't that what 90% of the people on this thread are complaining about?
I would rather be strong enough to make a decisions based on my perspective and be wrong, than to either needlessly argue a point even when proved wrong or just modify my outlook to suit whatever the current meme theory is...
I can, and will admit when I am wrong. But I won't adjust my thinking to conform.
michael28:
--- Quote from: idontunderstand on 05 Jul 2011, 10:05 ---Man he should have just fucked her in the ear.
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I just saw an old Indian saying that sentence. And burst out laughing. Thank you very much.
AngelofShadows:
He did nothing to earn respect? Having his own job and place and being financially independent earns respect, for starters. Helping two very sheltered friends come out of their shells and get closer to living lives they both admittedly want to live earns respect as well. Standing up to the vespavenger, standing by Steve, dealing with his rather odd situation with his parents without going insane, accepting and wanting his dad to be happy by giving his blessing to get remarried, all of these earn respect. You want more manly examples? He hit a Kung Fu monk in the face with a frying pan. He also didn't drink himself into a coma when he found out his girlfriend and her father both pleasured themselves to pictures of his mom. That earns a shit ton of respect points.
Welu:
I'd love to get more involved with the discussion and do some quoting and comic linking but busted laptop and PS3-browsing the forums is awkward enough. :psyduck: Instead here's just my original thoughts.
1: Dora looks good in that dress.
2: I think the "A lot was him too" was to an extent a face-saving comment in the middle of telling more than she meant to tell. Also I know if I wrecked a good thing due to difficult personal issues, at least pretending it wasn't 100% my fault would stop me feeling even more pathetic. Temporarily at least.
3: It's refreshing seeing Dora speak clearly about her view of the relationship/break-up. This is probably the type of discussion and epiphany she wanted to have with her therapist.
4:Hope Jeph is doing well. His Twitter feed is kind of worrying but it's his business. I appreciate him getting a comic up when he seems to be having a situation.
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: Elysiana on 05 Jul 2011, 10:01 ---I don't see why people should have to prove themselves to earn respect.
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You do when you've recently done things to lose that respect, which was the case between Marten and Dora (she started off already not having much respect for him due to watching his interactions with Faye). But as I said, Dora doesn't have much self-respect either (if not for her insecurities, she would still be with Marten).
Marten isn't completely worthless, but you do have to wonder why none of his friends seem to have any real respect for him.
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