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WCDT: Independence Day Week (4 - 8 July, 1961-1965)
wrwight:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 09 Jul 2011, 06:01 ---It's just a webcomic.
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I'm pretty sure I say this in my head at least once every time I read this thread. Still, I typically enjoy the discussion, so I contribute.
Now, to maim a mortified mustang (I think he died of alliteration):
When people bring up Marten's inappropriate behavior toward Faye, they tend to cite the one comic, and rip it out of context. The dude was in a bad place. That's all I'll say for now, but yeah, just take it in context.
VonKleist:
--- Quote from: Dust on 09 Jul 2011, 01:05 ---(collar-tug).. I better just come back on Monday, I think.
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Whoa, wait for me, buddy. I´m with you.
If you´re headed to the next bar that is.
michael28:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 09 Jul 2011, 06:01 ---Hodgson's Law/Bellisario's Maxim, people.
It's just a webcomic.
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yeah, right.
Wait Bellisario did Quantum Leap? Another series on my all-time-favorite list made by him, damn (number 4).
WAYF:
--- Quote from: wrwight on 09 Jul 2011, 06:14 ---
When people bring up Marten's inappropriate behavior toward Faye, they tend to cite the one comic, and rip it out of context. The dude was in a bad place. That's all I'll say for now, but yeah, just take it in context.
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I'd be happy to continue that thought.
I'm perfectly aware that Marten's not a saint. Just as an example, he did do that drunken rambling, and that was pretty bad. But it was one time, and he was incredibly drunk, and Faye was more than likely just the recipient of a lot of the bitterness he was feeling at the time. PLUS, and I think this is quite important, while Faye letting it slide did save him some further shame (which he probably didn't need anyway), it also robbed him of the ability to defend himself. To this day he doesn't even know he did anything bad, so he can't even say "Oh my God, I'm so sorry, I don't know what thinking". And I think that the people who loathe Marten's actions on that day would like something of that sort. But Marten can't give it.
In fact, now that you mention it wrwight, I can't think of a single argument I've ever read against Marten's character which hasn't been centred around that one episode. And one isolated episode of drunken ranting shouldn't immediately turn someone from a sympathetic character into a completely unsympathetic one.
Sylentknight:
Being relatively new to the forums the only comment I'll make about the community is that it is...divided, sometimes rather pointedly. And this is based only on what little I've gleaned from just this week of panels. And like all forums, the comments of some people reveal things about their personality and life experience that create , solely through conjecture, profiles of those individuals. Basically, we get a feel for them and make assumptions that allow us to predict how they are likely to respond to events.
That being said, (really rather obvious observation) while I do recognize that Marten is something of the everyman, I also recognize that the Everyman is equally noble as his is flawed. The Marten/Faye incident is pivotal because it showed Marten doing something we have never seen him do. It revealed the darker part of his "soul" (for lack of a better word) and demonstrated that we still don't know everything about Marten.
As a observation I would ask if there are any witnesses around who remember how Marten reacted when he went though his first serious break-up. I'm of course talking about the relationship that brought him to the east-coast. Also, I've noticed that besides Steve and Marten, no other characters seem to go through a period of darkness where they say or do things that others will find highly offensive.
Since it has only been two guys, it could be said that Jeph is simply reaffirming a general belief that women handle their emotions better than men, since neither Faye or Dora seemed to have fell into similar pits of darkness. Of course this does not excuse Marten. I feel he should be faced with one of his darker moments if for no other reason than to be aware of it. It is my hope that Pint-size was around and actively recording said behavior so that a some point in the future Marten can be made aware and grow just a little more.
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