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WCDT: Independence Day Week (4 - 8 July, 1961-1965)
Skewbrow:
@FrozenPeas:
Thanks for the interesting thoughts. You are undoubtedly very close to the mark. A couple of random thoughts occurred to me while reading your post.
1. You can say: "It's just a webcomic" in so many ways - all depending. The objective could be a bona fide attempt to let the other person (or oneself) off the hook. We realize (been there /seen it many times) that a normally sane fellow forumite occasionally just can't let go a dearly held position. IOW it is a desperate attempt to find their reset button. It could also be a way to remind ourselves that contrary to the popular belief there is life outside QC. This does not necessarily contradict your intrepretation, but whenever I say that (mostly to myself) it is always an act of worship to Jeph's storytelling. Narrativium at work?
2. The back story of your research got me thinking. How can we be sure that we ('we' as in 'the posters of this forum') are not guinea pigs in your giant lab, now? Assuming that you're working towards your PhD. Or now that we're aware of our role as hamsters running inside a wheel, our usefulness as objects of research may be compromised? But, hey, we are saving you tons of money by giving you free research material! I will totally promise to be unaware of my labrat status, if you pay for beer and pizza at the end of the year party.
Kazukagii:
Man this shit got serious, fast.
Just to speak up on the subject: I don't think Marten is a saint, and in fact enjoyed his lashing out at Faye because I felt like he was finally developing and going places. Only through great adversity... well you know the rest. Though I don't see him as perfect, I'm very invested in his growth as a character, very much so because of the reasons that FrozenPeas brought up. Marten very much reminds me of how I was during my high school years: very passive and non-confrontational, to the point that it was a detriment to my life. Thus I see a bit of myself in Marten, and am interested and rooting for him in regards to his growth as a character. I'll be dead honest: the last few months of comics have been frustrating me to no end, because Marten really hasn't been going anywhere. Just sulking at tsb and avoiding Dora. That's why I squeed like a little girl when Dora showed up at the party. Finally, he has to face his fears and move on.
Jeph displays his talent for character writing in that he gives each of our main cast members some type of hurdle they must overcome in order to grow and be satisfied. For Dora and Faye it is event(s) in their past that they have to move on from. For Hanners and Marigold, they have to overcome fundamental issues of their personality (crippling OCD and social anxiety, respectively.) Marten, however; I fell has the most difficult challenge in that he has to deal with both of the aforementioned. Both his past relationships, and his fundamental character traits of passivity and non-confrontational attitude need to be overcome for him to really "grow-up". I'd go on, but I don't want this to turn into Part III of my "The Fundamental Character of Marten" essay/rant.
I'll wrap up by saying that in no way is Marten perfect of a saint, and I do see that far too many people give him more and more slack. However I don't see how he's done anything to deserve having everything and anything ripped away from him, and for that to be called "justice." We've seen repeatedly that Marten feels lost in his life, and is trying to find direction and purpose. In that quest many people fall to dark places trying to find their way.
...Wow I type way too much. This is the reason we can't have nice things. :psyduck:
wrwight:
@FrozenPeas:
Interestingly enough, a good portion of that wall of text up there is what I mean when I say to myself "It's just a webcomic." To me that means I'm entitled to interpret it the way I want, and I'm certainly not entitled to deny anyone else's opinion unless it is something that has been clearly shown in the comic to be wrong. This forum and specifically these WCDTs seem to (by nature of their name even) encourage discussion, and sometimes discussion becomes debate, and when I read two pages of people arguing while I've been at work or asleep or whatever, I think of at least a dozen things I want to say, but I have to calm down and remind myself "It's just a webcomic," and when I've done that, if there are still lingering thoughts, I'll post them. I've gotten several times to the end of a reply, pointer hovering over the "Post" button, and decide what I have to say doesn't contribute to the discussion in a healthy manner, so I just delete it.
Dust:
--- Quote from: Kazukagii on 09 Jul 2011, 13:17 ---Man this shit got serious, fast.
Just to speak up on the subject: I don't think Marten is a saint, and in fact enjoyed his lashing out at Faye because I felt like he was finally developing and going places. Only through great adversity... well you know the rest. Though I don't see him as perfect, I'm very invested in his growth as a character, very much so because of the reasons that FrozenPeas brought up. Marten very much reminds me of how I was during my high school years: very passive and non-confrontational, to the point that it was a detriment to my life. Thus I see a bit of myself in Marten, and am interested and rooting for him in regards to his growth as a character. I'll be dead honest: the last few months of comics have been frustrating me to no end, because Marten really hasn't been going anywhere. Just sulking at tsb and avoiding Dora. That's why I squeed like a little girl when Dora showed up at the party. Finally, he has to face his fears and move on.
Jeph displays his talent for character writing in that he gives each of our main cast members some type of hurdle they must overcome in order to grow and be satisfied. For Dora and Faye it is event(s) in their past that they have to move on from. For Hanners and Marigold, they have to overcome fundamental issues of their personality (crippling OCD and social anxiety, respectively.) Marten, however; I fell has the most difficult challenge in that he has to deal with both of the aforementioned. Both his past relationships, and his fundamental character traits of passivity and non-confrontational attitude need to be overcome for him to really "grow-up". I'd go on, but I don't want this to turn into Part III of my "The Fundamental Character of Marten" essay/rant.
I'll wrap up by saying that in no way is Marten perfect of a saint, and I do see that far too many people give him more and more slack. However I don't see how he's done anything to deserve having everything and anything ripped away from him, and for that to be called "justice." We've seen repeatedly that Marten feels lost in his life, and is trying to find direction and purpose. In that quest many people fall to dark places trying to find their way.
...Wow I type way too much. This is the reason we can't have nice things. :psyduck:
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Just pretend I used that "Clapping Kane" Gif from a few weeks ago, that's perhaps the best way it could ever be put.
--- Quote from: VonKleist on 09 Jul 2011, 06:45 ---
--- Quote from: Dust on 09 Jul 2011, 01:05 ---(collar-tug).. I better just come back on Monday, I think.
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Whoa, wait for me, buddy. I´m with you.
If you´re headed to the next bar that is.
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Sure, just remember. Those 3 stools at the end are reversed for the Bros.
stoutfiles:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 09 Jul 2011, 06:01 ---Hodgson's Law/Bellisario's Maxim, people.
It's just a webcomic.
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And your point? You've made over 2100 posts over "just a webcomic".
If people want to argue something in the comic, let them. Just because YOU don't want them to debate doesn't mean you can belittle people having serious discussions.
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