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WCDT: 11-15 July 2011 (1966-1970)
stoutfiles:
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--- Quote from: Tova on 14 Jul 2011, 06:08 ---Dora does have a lot on her mind right now, so she can be forgiven for being oblivious (which is how she seems to me, although the theory of akronnick is appealing).
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I'm not sure she is, Dora in Panel 4 (to me) looks like someone who's accepted her situation and is ready to move on.
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I wasn't saying anything different, however she looks to me as though she is reflecting on all that has passed.
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 14 Jul 2011, 16:49 ---No, a mature person would not go after a girl her friend and coworker is still emotional about.
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Considering that in the end she backed away from saying anything, I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that she is becoming more mature.
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 14 Jul 2011, 17:14 ---I mean come on, he was literally depressed about it just moments before.
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Ummm really?
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Yes, really. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1947
She only backed away from saying anything because Dora just implied that her knowing Marten would be too weird. Now Tai isn't allowed to do anything because she knows Marten, and she's upset about it.
--- Quote from: wrwight on 14 Jul 2011, 19:35 ---
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 14 Jul 2011, 17:14 ---I mean come on, he was literally depressed about it just moments before.
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This totally makes me giggle as I picture Marten being pushed down by some force. I know what you meant, but misuse (or in your case misplacement) of literally makes me either cringe or giggle. Yours was funny though.
On the question of Tai and Marten being bros, and the code and all, I think Tai's in the clear, but would be a better friend by keeping distance for a while, and I also think that's kind of how she acted it out. She knows it'd be ok, that Marten would forgive her eventually, so she floated the idea, but when met with less than the success she wanted, she backed off. Kind of playing the odds. *walks off humming The Gambler*
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He was "literally depressed". As in, he was slouched on a table with a cloud of gloom pushing down on him and Tai.
But somehow we're supposed to believe that Marten immediately pulled a 180 and became completely over Dora in a split second. Yeah, not buying it. I highly doubt Tai bought it either, but she didn't really give a shit about Marten's feelings till she discovered that, shit, Dora does.
Tova:
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 14 Jul 2011, 19:59 ---Yes, really. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1947
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OK. Quibble: that wasn't "moments ago" (which is what I was questioning).
But I agree with your observation about getting over something like that being a "roller coaster".
--- Quote ---But somehow we're supposed to believe that Marten immediately pulled a 180 and became completely over Dora in a split second.
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I don't think anyone suggested that.
He doesn't need to be "completely over" Dora to accept Dora dating a specific person that he likes.
Anyway, it's all moot because she didn't confess her feelings in the end. And I don't buy the idea that she "didn't give a shit" until that point. It's a valid interpretation, but I don't share it.
wrwight:
ah, I too was confused by the "moments ago" part. Although I still think I'd call that "almost literally" depressed, as there is no real indication that the word "gloo...m" is actually pushing down on them. That is a much better use than I had previously thought though.
EDIT: I feel I may get questioned on how something can be "almost literal" and I think this situation applies. He looks like he's being literally pushed down (i.e. depressed) but there isn't anything actually doing the pressing
AngelofShadows:
Wow. People really seem to hate Tai. My thoughts if you're interested (and you are. YOU FUCKING ARE! I WILL PSYDUCK THE SHIT OUT OF YOU IF YOU AREN'T!), panel four is a bit of a mix. Yeah, Tai got shot down, but she's not some totally selfish person. The heart wants what it wants, doesn't mean she doesn't feel bad about leapfrogging over the corpse of Marten and Dora's relationship to get it.
JackFaerie:
--- Quote from: guayec on 14 Jul 2011, 01:42 ---i assume dora is joking? about that being the (only?) reason to not have casual sex with tai?
i wanna think she is joking.
i wanna like dora again.
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Wait, why would that possibly make Dora a bad person? Assuming she doesn't know Tai has deeper feelings for her, there's no reason NOT to have a casual fling with her except for the fact that it would make things weird with marten for both of them.
Dora knows Tai dates people casually, thus has experience in no-strings-attached sex, and thus should be a good candidate for that. She likes Tai as a person. She's just realized that she can't be dating anyone right now, but having casual sex is separate from that--she doesn't have to be celibate while she works on her issues. She has problems with insecurity and trust in relationships--in a truly casual FWB arrangement, her issues shouldn't apply. So assuming Dora doesn't know about Tai's feelings for her and finds her attractive, the Marten factor IS the only real reason not to hook up with her.
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 14 Jul 2011, 05:46 ---Oh please, Tai barely knows her. It's all about looks as Tai is an horny, immature little girl.
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I don't understand why everyone is acting like Tai is completely incapable of serious relationships. If you recall when she was first introduced, Tai was the one WANTING to have a serious, committed relationship with a girl who only did poly arrangements. Since the casual-relationship model was the prevalent state of things at her school, Tai gave up on having a serious relationship and went along with the flow, eventually getting a bit caught up in it, but it never really made her happy. And recently she's been thinking about how it hasn't really made her happy and how she really wants a serious relationship--which is in fact what she wanted all along. Yes, she's not the most mature person, and that certainly played out in her past sexual relationships. But she was a college student and experimenting--almost no one is mature in that situation! Poly relationships are very difficult to conduct without drama unless you have a fair amount of relationship experience, so the fact that Tai's had drama simply says that she's normal, not that she's spectacularly immature. It's kind of like calling a beginning gymnast a klutz because they had no one to teach them the basics and started trying to perform advanced maneuvers right off the bat instead. And actually a lot of times when we heard about relationship drama in relation to her, Tai was talking about other people.
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