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idontunderstand:

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--- Quote from: spoon_of_grimbo on 06 Aug 2011, 02:18 ---so i suppose someone we should sympathise if someone goes and kills a bunch of people, or beats an animal to death, or some other such heinous crime, if they happened to be in a bad place, mentally, at the time?
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Could be - if we knew the circumstances well enough.  It wouldn't lessen the horror of what had happened, but that's not the only point.  If course, we virtually never do know the circumstances in any detail, or even at all, which makes demonisation an easy choice if that's the way we're inclined.

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Well said..

spoon_of_grimbo:
in fairness, it seems i was being pretty harsh back there, so apologies if i did offend anyone.  i guess there are more sides to all this than i'd really considered :oops:

it's just things like heroin abuse, where the negative effect is felt by more than just the abuser (i.e. perpetuates the drug trade and those caught up in it, affects family and friends, etc. etc.) that generally make me see red.

again, sorry for the rants :S

idontunderstand:
's all good homes.

Patrick:

--- Quote from: spoon_of_grimbo on 06 Aug 2011, 02:18 ---so i suppose someone we should sympathise if someone goes and kills a bunch of people, or beats an animal to death, or some other such heinous crime, if they happened to be in a bad place, mentally, at the time?

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This is what happened to the drummer from Derek and the Dominoes. Dude killed and dismembered his mom and now he's in a mental institution for life 'cause they figured out afterward that he was an undiagnosed schizophrenic.

Upon learning this, I stopped thinking Varg was quite so metal. Brutal murder? BEEN DONE

Mr. Doctor:
Varg's case isn't even that brutal tbh... Just stabs. The guy from DatD used a first which is way more hardcore. [Insert some Cannibal Corpse joke here]

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