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WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
Carl-E:
Raoullefere! You're alive!
It's only been what, about 6 months since you last posted? At my age, when someone disappears for that long, I'm tempted to check the obituary pages...
Sorry, I've been to three funerals in the last two months. The heat takes its toll, I guess.
Heliphyneau:
--- Quote from: Interlude on 02 Aug 2011, 23:25 ---I agree that Marten's passivity played a large part in Dora's breaking up with him. Honestly, most people have more than one reason for making a life changing decision. Her own insecurities were one-- but a lot of it was that Marten never did anything to REALLY show her that he wanted to be with her because he WANTED her, not just because she was there. Marten could have done that when Dora asked to move in together-- but he chose Faye. I would not have handled that as well as Dora did. (I know I have my issues. Haha.) I know someone could argue that he just didn't want to move, or that he was just being a good friend...etc. However, I felt it was the completely wrong way to go about things.
If he did not want to leave that apartment or was not ready to move in with Dora, he should have just said as much-- there was no reason to bring Faye into it at all. Dora was ready to take their relationship to the next level-- moving in and focusing on the development of the relationship as adults. Marten did not seem to be on the same page as her. This is a breaking point for many relationships. When one person is ready to progress as a couple and the other is not, it is very hard to stay in that relationship. At some point, you have to realize that the relationship is not going anywhere, and it would be best to end it.
I think Marten really liked her, but was he seriously considering a future with her? Dora is ready to settle down. Yes, she has issues to work through, but I think that would have been easier to do with someone who seemed to want the same thing out of the relationship. Knowing you want something more, but not being sure if your partner feels the same... Added to the fact that Dora is insecure to begin with. It is not a good combination.
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I think Marten's passivity was part of what drew Dora to him in the first place -- since, as we found out later, Dora had dated "alpha goths", she may have wanted someone less . . . pushy. I think they both hoped that their relationship would be The One, but instead it turned out to be The Next Lesson. I disagree that Marten was specifically choosing Faye over Dora by not wanting to move, though. Yes, he said he liked his apartment more, and yes, he said he didn't want to inconvenience Faye, but those sounded like rationalizations to me. I think he just didn't want to change. He liked his life, how it was and where it was. Which of course does mean that he wasn't ready to move on to the next phase with Dora. Granted, Dora may have jumped the gun a bit on wanting to move in as well -- sort of a "this is where we're supposed to be at this point in our relationship" combined with some optimism and impulsiveness -- but neither of them was really ready for the next phase. I'm not even sure Dora is truly ready to settle down with someone now, but once she's spent some time working out some of her issues, she may become ready, and sooner than Marten.
--- Quote from: lepetitfromage on 03 Aug 2011, 10:26 ---I didn't find it creepy either...but then again, I LOVE LOVE LOVE installation art (the more bizarre, the better imho)
However, she should have probably asked her clients before stealing their hair...considering that some people could get really uncomfortable being a piece of art without consenting.....
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I find the hair tunnel idea creepy, but not night-terror-inducing. Of course, when one actually crawls through such a thing, there's no telling which direction the hair will be pointing and thus whether you'll be rubbing it the wrong way when shimmying through it, or how long all of it is (car wash anyone?), or which part of the body it's been taken from as Is It Cold pointed out, or how it will smell, or how well-attached it will be to the tube . . . So, yeah. I'll go with creepy. YMMV. And it's definitely rude of her not to ask her clients' permission to use their cut hair, though not illegal.
Skewbrow:
--- Quote from: Heliphyneau on 03 Aug 2011, 11:35 ---
I think Marten's passivity was part of what drew Dora to him in the first place -- since, as we found out later, Dora had dated "alpha goths", she may have wanted someone less . . . pushy.
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This. Marten was the opposite of alpha goth and, more importantly to Dora, anti-Sven. That likely played a role in her initial attraction. And the fact that Marten seemed to be at ease around attractive women. But I, too, think that Dora spilled some other truths about what was troubling her about Marten on her dinner date with Jim.
I started reading QC shortly after Dora moved in with Marten & Faye, so I don't know, but undoubtedly their respective reactions to the initial suggestion of cohabitation as well as to the chosen living arrangement were adequately dissected here at that time. No comment from me.
Hair? What's creepy about it? I had a haircut on Monday. As only may be 40% of my scalp is growing any, I figure I only need to get a haircut every ... two and half times the usual interval. I didn't see the lady dump the clippings to a basket though?
Edit: Hey! I seem to have gotten out of those pneumatic ratchet pants. Never figured out how they work. Was a tight fit in any case.
mary tyler murder:
One visitor climbs into the hair tunnel and begins furiously jacking off, followed by the indefinite removal of the exhibit.
mary tyler murder:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 03 Aug 2011, 05:32 ---OK, my wife used to do hair - had to stop for several reasons, one of which was what she called the "emotional vampires" - the people who came and did nothing but talk about their personal problems every two weeks like clockwork. Left her feeling drained and miserable half the time. It was like they sought her out, because she's such a good listener.
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Thank you for validating my choice to say as little as politeness allows to barbers/hairdressers/other grooming-related servicepeople.
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