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WCDT 8-12 August 2011 (1986-1990) aka Method's birth week
musicalsoul:
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--- Quote from: Akima on 10 Aug 2011, 23:55 ---The animation did not "repeat" in the browser I normally use, so I missed it.
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I find it hard to believe that the problem is general to the browser (what is it?) rather than specific to your installation of it. I really wouldn't suggest that the one-off use of an animated GIF is in any way unreasonable these days. It even shows on my iPhone, though much too slowly.
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It showed on your phone? It didn't show on my mine. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what everyone was talking about to start with.
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: musicalsoul on 11 Aug 2011, 10:03 ---And btw, yea my sister would pay to be a teacher. I mean, when she was a student teacher during college, she was paying to be a teacher.
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As someone who's starting his final semester of student teaching in a few weeks, I don't think this can be stressed enough.
SirDudley:
Aww, Li'l Marten's first concert. Well, concert in the very loosest sense of the term.
As for me, I played trombone from 6th-8th grade....mostly because brass band was the only other option besides chorus and my singing could murder kittens.
That said, I have to wonder if this was around the time of the dinosaur Halloween costume or the dildo incident.
No kittens were ever killed by my singing. I just know I suck at it.
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rje:
--- Quote from: akronnick on 11 Aug 2011, 02:32 ---So... Hot Cross buns, Merrily We Roll Along or Ode to Joy?
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I vote Ode to Joy
the former are just for practice
but Ode to Joy is the My First Clarinet Recital staple, man
(as a former 8-year clarinet player this comic really made me smile
WOODIE SOLIDARITY MARTEN *brofist*)
stoutfiles:
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--- Quote from: Tova on 09 Aug 2011, 15:11 ---It's hard to know whether to address your attack on Marten and the others or your attack on Jeph. But since you obviously refuse to believe it is even possible, and have even gone so far as to criticise the beliveability of developments that haven't yet occurred, then I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
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I'm not attacking Jeph...I'm just proving a point. Marten has a much better chance of succeeding because he is the main character in a comic. If we translated Marten's situation to the real world and he was a person that you knew, the last thing you would be wondering is how his friends will take it when he's famous. As a friend you would root for him, but deep down be very skeptical that anything other than a bar gig would happen. I only challenge Jeph to make this current story arc be plausible by having Marten really work at this for an extended period of time.
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You haven't proven anything here. You've stated an opinion. Those are two separate thing. As a friend to some people with serious musical aspirations, you're right, I would root for them. But, I have never been skeptical deep down. I've always been a believer of you can do anything you want as long as you put your mind to it. Maybe Marten's character wasn't as motivated before. But I'm under the impression he's getting some development. Maybe he's going to try harder to be motivated. And who's to say Jeph won't have Marten work hard over an extended period of time to reach his goals? As far as I know, none of us are psychics. We have no way of knowing what Jeph's plans are. For all we know, his plan might be to have Marten fail with music, but find his real passion along the way. Crazier things have happened.
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Do I really need to prove that the main character of a fictional comic has a better chance of succeeding than a real-life person? For instance, the odds of Marten getting hit by a bus and dying tomorrow are 0%. The odds of the town getting hit by a tsunami and everyone dying are 0%. In real-life, they aren't. Extreme, I know, but Marten lives in a world where he can't completely fail because his creator won't let him, as Marten and the rest of the cast support Jephs financial well being. No, that is not a knock against Jeph, it's just how it is. There are less paths a story arc can take in certain works of fiction than in a real-life scenario.
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--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 09 Aug 2011, 18:11 ---If Marten didn't care about money then great, but he's shown no signs that he wouldn't like to be better off.
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To steal your words, with the information we have, he doesn't care about money.
He does care about having a crappy job he doesn't enjoy.
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If he made a million dollars a year, he'd be singing a different tune. The job is crappy because it doesn't pay well.
I've made my point, and we agree to disagree. I had hoped Marten would follow a safer path based on what I've seen from him. I guess we'll just see how it all plays out.
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.... I have absolutely no words to describe how ridiculous a statement that is. If he made a million dollars a year, he'd be singing a different tune?
A crappy job is a crappy job regardless of how much you get paid. My older sister is an elementary school teacher. She doesn't get paid that much, but SHE LOVES HER JOB!
At one point in time she was a business major in college, obviously she changed her mind about wanting to be in business. But I imagine if she hadn't changed her major she'd be doing something businessy, getting paid twice if not three times as much as what she makes now, but she'd be miserable, because she didn't really enjoy it. Happiness is not synonymous with more money.
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Would she do it for free? Now be honest, would she go there everyday for free? Even better, would she pay to work there? She LOVES it, and I pay for things I like to do, so would she? On the other end of the coin, would she be even happier if she made a million dollars a year? Wouldn't that make the job that much better? I know multiple teachers personally, and none of them are particularly pleased with their salary, among other things about their job(daycare service, discipline). I asked them if they made a fortune doing it, would they care as much about those issues...what do you think they said?
If I paid you a million dollars a day to literally shovel crap, would you do it? A million dollars, per day. Of course you would. While the job might literally be crappy, the pay would be so good that you would enjoy having that job. The fact is, most jobs do suck, but most people don't live to work, they work to live. They make enough that they can see the world, try new things, relax. Some of these people even enjoy their jobs too, and its because they sat down and researched a career path they wanted to pursue. They didnt plot their life out over a haircut and burger. Marten will never get to do certain things with his life because he can't afford to. If his guitar broke tomorrow could he even afford a new one? While you could argue that Marten doesn't care about things like money, the life he's leading currently hasn't made him the happiest person. Money is important, whether people want to admit it or not. It's not everything, and it can't buy happiness, but it can help.
As I've said before, if I thought Marten was truly passionate about music I'd support this more, but to me it just seemed like the quick solution. If they had a strip where Marten went over different career paths, really sat down and thought everything through, his decision wouldn't be so sketchy.
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Money doesn't buy you happiness. You can have all the money in the WORLD and still be miserable. Would my sister be happier if she got paid more for teaching, sure, but I can bet you anything she wouldn't quit teaching to go shovel crap just because it paid more money. And as for myself, neither would I. I'm studying to be a chef. They don't necessarily make a lot of money, unless they cook at a super famous five star restaurant. Being in a kitchen cooking for people, can be stressful as hell. Hell, just dealing with people on a day to day basis can be stressful. The hours will suck. But there's almost nothing else I'd rather do, except maybe write books, which lets be honest, probably wouldn't pay that well either. But you know what, in spite of the stress that can be involved. Being in a kitchen, cooking, makes me happier than just about anything else. I couldn't give a shit what it's going to pay, because hey, I'm getting PAID to do something I love.
And btw, yea my sister would pay to be a teacher. I mean, when she was a student teacher during college, she was paying to be a teacher.
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I just said it doesn't buy happiness. However, it does increase happiness. Yes, I am happier because I can afford to do things.
You wouldn't shovel some crap for a million dollars a day? Just a week of doing that could let you go to the best cooking school, and open your own restaurant anywhere in the world. I understand though, you're trying to win an argument by ignoring the logic that millions of dollars aren't worth having.
Um, I paid for my profession too, but like everyone who does this they expect to be compensated, at the very least enough money to live. Your sister would not bankrupt and starve herself to teach. That was a trick question to see if you'd argue any statement I made to be difficult for the sake of being difficult. Try actually asking her next time, she's not trying to win an argument.
Money is important. I'm sorry, but it is. It's less important to some, more to others, but we live in a world where you have to be making money to survive. As for Marten, he lives in a city, eats and drinks at establishments, etc. Money is important to him. If he was given a million dollars, he would be happy, just like anyone would be.
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