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WCDT 8-12 August 2011 (1986-1990) aka Method's birth week
Tova:
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 08 Aug 2011, 17:27 ---You understand the work needed to get a band off the ground, yet you disagree with me. Marten is incredibly flaky, Amir himself is "questionable content", and Hanners is just having some fun. Not one of them has the dedication to be great, and you have to be great to make a real career out of music. I mean, Jeph can pull 180s on all his characters to make them succeed, but based on what we know about the band members they have no chance.
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We have never before seen how Marten acts when motivated by a real life goal, so I think that what we know about Marten isn't quite enough to determine whether he can make a career out of music.
From what we know about Marten, he doesn't have the dedication to make a real career out of much at all except a librarian or office flunky, so by your logic he shouldn't try anything.
I think it's a bit rich to constantly complain that he has no goals, then when he selects the one obvious goal open to him, to complain "No, not that!"
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: idontunderstand on 08 Aug 2011, 16:18 ---On a side note, the idea of starting a song with the guitar tuning to a chord while the bass and drums groove is a pretty cool idea. Probably been done many times, but still.
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Grateful Dead, St. Stephen, from Skeletons in the Closet.
At least, it always sounded that way to me!
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: Tova on 08 Aug 2011, 18:15 ---We have never before seen how Marten acts when motivated by a real life goal
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Does Faye count?
If a relationship with Faye had been a goal in the usual sense, he might have pursued her more directly and risked rejection. On the other hand, whatever he was doing in place of openly courting her, he sure stuck with it for a long time.
Monkey Says Yes:
Hey, cool music stuff today! Maybe Deathmole's onto something big!
Interesting how Marten's pursuing his love of music again as Jason and Kurt in Multiplex are going to film their movie. Creativity! Yes!
stoutfiles:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 08 Aug 2011, 18:02 ---No lack of dedication from Hannelore: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=887.
Marten would certainly have to change. If he's actually figured out what he wants from life, that change may be forthcoming.
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There's a difference between dedication and having fun. Once Marten stopped, she stopped.
--- Quote from: Tova on 08 Aug 2011, 18:15 ---
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 08 Aug 2011, 17:27 ---You understand the work needed to get a band off the ground, yet you disagree with me. Marten is incredibly flaky, Amir himself is "questionable content", and Hanners is just having some fun. Not one of them has the dedication to be great, and you have to be great to make a real career out of music. I mean, Jeph can pull 180s on all his characters to make them succeed, but based on what we know about the band members they have no chance.
--- End quote ---
We have never before seen how Marten acts when motivated by a real life goal, so I think that what we know about Marten isn't quite enough to determine whether he can make a career out of music.
From what we know about Marten, he doesn't have the dedication to make a real career out of much at all except a librarian or office flunky, so by your logic he shouldn't try anything.
I think it's a bit rich to constantly complain that he has no goals, then when he selects the one obvious goal open to him, to complain "No, not that!"
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-I figured getting with Faye was a real-life goal, and that was guarded flirting and then bitter resentment. We've seen him motivated but we've never seen him give 100% effort. I'm not sure we ever will.
-I think he should shoot for a low risk, achievable career goal. However, it has not been said that Marten is trying to make a career out of this, he might just want another hobby. Which is fine, for now anyway.
-When he fails, and he will unless multiple characters pull 180's, then he'll be back in the coffee shop that much older having accomplished nothing. I wonder when characters like Faye and Dora are married off and Marten is still that guy trying to keep the band alive and working at the library. I don't care if he has a hobby, but I want him to grow up a little as far as his future's concerned. Yes, Jeph is not going to let Marten fail at life, but if Marten was a real-life person his most likely outcome would be failing at life if he continues down this path. If you had Marten as a real-life friend, you wouldn't be the least bit worried about his future?
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