Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 22-26 August 2011 (1996-2000)
stoutfiles:
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--- Quote from: snubnose on 23 Aug 2011, 05:45 ---2001 isnt exactly a very enjoyable movie, it drives modern watchers nuts with its slowness.
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Speak for yourself! Regardless of the merits of 2001, quotations from HAL's dialogue are instantly recognisable to the point of cliché more than 40 years after the movie was released. I can't think of anything that Data or C3PO said that has the same recognition now, and we'll have to wait to determine how much they're remembered after 40 years. Actually, the only other AI/robot lines I can think of that approach HAL's for recognition in pop culture would be "Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!"
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I don't think we can determine fame by how quotable someone is. Just because HAL is quoted in mainstream media doesn't mean people will bother to investigate the source material. They won't know it's alluding to HAL and they won't care.
But on that note, the Terminator and the "I'll be back" would likely be more recognizable by people today.
gangler:
I was actually reminded more of Chachamaru, though I see how chobits matches the whole computing angle of this better. She looked better before she had her joints smoothed out. I like that we're not going out of our way to make the robots indistinguishable from people here. If you're gonna make a robot with high end plastics instead of harsher metals then the joints are really essential to the look. Jeph did a very good job of capturing that. Leda is really quite pretty^^
--- Quote from: Akima on 23 Aug 2011, 06:22 ---
--- Quote from: snubnose on 23 Aug 2011, 05:45 ---2001 isnt exactly a very enjoyable movie, it drives modern watchers nuts with its slowness.
--- End quote ---
Speak for yourself! Regardless of the merits of 2001, quotations from HAL's dialogue are instantly recognisable to the point of cliché more than 40 years after the movie was released. I can't think of anything that Data or C3PO said that has the same recognition now, and we'll have to wait to determine how much they're remembered after 40 years. Actually, the only other AI/robot lines I can think of that approach HAL's for recognition in pop culture would be "Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!"
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What was Pintsize gonna say there? Sounded like he was going for the Starwolf meme but then they threw me off with Space Odyssey.
Regarding Winslowe I think we're all most comfortable in a certain type of body. The boyfriendbot either didn't meet his tastes, or contradicted some part of his self identity, or who knows what? Either way being able to just transfer to a more appropriate body probably does simplify that whole matter.
westrim:
The Starwolf quote from Starfox is derived from 2001 That's why it was funny, it was already in everyone's brain. All that Pintsize was going to finish with was "do that."
I know no quotes of Marvin, just that he was depressed- and I don't think I'd know even that if I wasn't interested in scifi and getting around to the Hitchhikers Guide someday.
Other widely known 2001 quotes include "good morning Dave," "open the pod bay doors, HAL," and "This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it." It also gave us a lot of indelible imagery, like the monolith, the protohumans fighting, bone becomes spaceship match cut, Dave's helmet cam, and probably some other stuff, but aside from HAL's optical sensor they don't have much to do with AI.
gangler:
Wow. That actually is pretty impressive. I didn't realize all that came from that movie. "This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it." in particular I would not have assumed to have any particular origin. Just something you say in those types of situations.
Sounds like whether or not HAL is famous or recognizable, it was at the very least very culturally influential.
Mr. Doctor:
The crazy thing is how right after you watch the movie.. you start to see so many programs doing some parodies or tributes to that movie. Simpsons for example.
Gangler: If you want you can try to see if you recognise one here
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