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WCDT 22-26 August 2011 (1996-2000)

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themacnut:
Enslaving AI leads to conflict too, if at first only with pro-AI rights humans. But as AI's get smart enough, at least some of them will also start to wonder why they're enslaved. And so will begin the AI Revolution. If AI's themselves don't start it, humans promoting AI Equal Rights will.

Is it cold in here?:
"Between justice and genocide there is, in the long run, no middle ground" -- Aral Vorkosigan

Most days we get along with other intelligences without enslaving them.

Boradis:

--- Quote from: themacnut on 22 Aug 2011, 15:38 ---Enslaving AI leads to conflict too, if at first only with pro-AI rights humans.

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Like many, many other species we've always fought amongst ourselves. I just don't want to see us supplanted.

I guess the inevitable state will be an independent AI somewhere (hopefully) far away and not competing with us for resources.

stoutfiles:

--- Quote from: themacnut on 22 Aug 2011, 15:38 ---Enslaving AI leads to conflict too, if at first only with pro-AI rights humans. But as AI's get smart enough, at least some of them will also start to wonder why they're enslaved. And so will begin the AI Revolution. If AI's themselves don't start it, humans promoting AI Equal Rights will.

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Wonder?  As in compute?

You can't enslave a robot.  You can give it programmed emotions that perfectly emulate a human, but it's still a robot.  All of it's emotions are hard-coded, just like reading from a script.  

if(stabbed == true) emulate_pain();  //how sad, now I care for this robot

It wouldn't be real.  My desktop could ask me everyday to put it outside but I would say no.  I would then alter its programming to stop running that function.  If I had an AnthroPC I would alter its programming to do chores while I'm gone if it wouldn't listen to my commands.  Would this make me a monster?  No.  If someone put a chip and a speaker in my vacuum that said "please don't make me clean the carpet, you're torturing me", I would not feel bad for my non-living vacuum.  Would anyone?  

I wouldn't want a sentient (program altering) computer running around the house.  It may seem like a real person but it's not; it's just as living as my desktop or my toaster.  The AI Rights groups would be a bunch of insane people...wanting to free robots, desktops, vacuums, and toasters from their evil oppressors.  Dammit Jeph, why did you have to focus on the A.I.s!  None of this storyline makes any sense whatsoever.

gangler:
The entire concept of an AI within this context is that it's not as simple as "if(stabbed == true) emulate_pain();". It's developed the full complexities of the human mind. It reads from a script the same way you do. It is in essence a sentient being.

Finding that particular function and removing it from the overall program would be no less intricate a task than finding the specific neural synapses within the human brain that are responsible for your desiring to eat something crunchy on occasion. Most likely you couldn't remove that without damaging the overall structure in some similar and lasting way as well.

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