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WCDT: 2001-2005 (29 Aug-2 Sept 2011)
Is it cold in here?:
Now there's a question: how strong is an AnthroPC chassis?
It would be good safety engineering to limit them to human-scale strength, but that covers a wide range.
The HPC-4100X is not strong enough to hold someone's head out of a toilet, but it would be possible to put a motor into something that size that could lift a whole human.
Maybe AnthroPCs have a synthetic muscle simulant which is more flexible than motors and gearing, but which compromises available force?
questionablecontentfan:
If it was just that I thought she was, I would say that. But I don't just think she is, she is.
westrim:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 30 Aug 2011, 21:19 ---Now there's a question: how strong is an AnthroPC chassis?
It would be good safety engineering to limit them to human-scale strength, but that covers a wide range.
The HPC-4100X is not strong enough to hold someone's head out of a toilet, but it would be possible to put a motor into something that size that could lift a whole human.
Maybe AnthroPCs have a synthetic muscle simulant which is more flexible than motors and gearing, but which compromises available force?
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Hopefully significantly stronger than ours for emergency situations, but with strict governors for everyday situations, like wrestlers who don't have to grip a can like a... bar thingy barbell.
YourMaster:
--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 30 Aug 2011, 20:17 ---I think it's just bullshit that Marigold got to choose between what actually happened, and Angus having sex with her and then dumping her cold. How about loving her?
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You don't choose whether to love/have a crush on somebody. If you could, then Marigold could have just not chosen to love Angus and there would be no problem.
There are perhaps other options. He could have tried a date. But if he's pretty sure that's going nowhere, it's more merciful not to build up hope, only to dash it, all the while keeping her from possibly pursuing any other guy.
--- Quote ---I don't agree with the whole "oh, she only liked him because he was nice" crap. Maybe she just felt backed into a corner and said that because she wasn't thinking clearly.
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Maybe. People do that sort of thing, I know. That said, it's a bit patronising to assume that a given person doesn't feel the way she says she feels. People also sometimes feel exactly as she says she feels. But in any case, why does it matter? You can't have feelings for somebody just because it would hurt them if you don't have those feelings.
--- Quote ---Angus almost wanted to hear her say her feelings weren't genuine to make himself feel better about rejecting her.
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And? Studies show that rejecting a person is typically as hard as being rejected. It actually sucks to reject somebody you're friends with. But that doesn't mean "whelp, you must be my one and only soulmate forever because you called dibs first".
I find the notion that somebody "should" have "loved her back" kind of gross. Romantic love isn't something you just feel for anybody who loves you first. Even the most wonderful people aren't in love (in the romantic sense) with the vast, vast majority of the people in the world, and never will be. You don't get to have whoever you want, just because you want them. And if you really care for somebody, you shouldn't want them to be with you just because you want them. They should be with you because they want to be with you, or they shouldn't be with you at all.
--- Quote ---Anyway, this conversation is getting boring. I'm sick of being scolded. I am allowed to feel how I feel. Jeez.
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And I'm allowed to feel that it's ethically wrong to think that way, because nobody has the right to tell anybody else who to love or not love. To feel that way, that's another matter. "That which is done out of love invariable takes place beyond good and evil", as Nietzsche says. But you only started talking about this being something you feel, rather than something you think, recently, and it really feels like backpedaling.
Do you get to choose who loves you AND what we all talk about? :)
billydaking:
--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 30 Aug 2011, 20:17 ---I think it's just bullshit that Marigold got to choose between what actually happened, and Angus having sex with her and then dumping her cold. How about loving her?
I don't agree with the whole "oh, she only liked him because he was nice" crap. Maybe she just felt backed into a corner and said that because she wasn't thinking clearly. Angus almost wanted to hear her say her feelings weren't genuine to make himself feel better about rejecting her.
And so what if she doesn't say anything or act like she has a broken heart? Who knows what's going on inside of her? I have a broken heart, and if you observed my external actions, you'd never know it, because I don't speak of it to anyone, and I have to go on acting like everything's fine, when it's not.
What makes you think Marigold couldn't be doing the same?
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Because that's not how the strip went. She was not "backed into a corner"--Angus asked her about a while after, not the next morning. She was embarrassed to talk about it, but she was honest--and she opened up about how she felt as they talked it out. That's not being backed into a corner, when you say something to escape. Marigold didn't escape, she communicated. She's not, as you say, keeping it all in. And Angus gave her some of the best advice in the strip:
--- Quote ---Listen, what I was trying to get at is, you're really great. You're SO great you shouldn't just settle for a dude just because he's nice to you or wants to sleep with you, or whatever.
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Marigold holding a crush on Angus isn't bad, but what you describe is extremely unhealthy. Especially when Marigold is still living in the same apartment with the guy.
Here's the thing: I've been on both sides. A woman "friend" who pushed herself onto me didn't accept it when I told her I just wanted to be friends. She became a near-stalker after I told her that I just wanted to be friends, up to and including telling another woman who liked me that we were an item. She adored me simply because I was friendly with her, the first guy in a long time who did that; therefore, to her, I must adore her in return. So when I see somebody say that a character is a jerk because he was honest and open his own feelings (which every real relationship MUST have) and because he didn't allow someone to snowball him and force him into a relationship with her....
I'm sorry, I find that twisted.
On the other side...I've been friends with a woman for nearly a decade. She has a number of issues, similar to Hanners in fact, and I've been a decent rock in our friendship. Somewhere along the way, I developed feelings for her. I told her, and she had no clue I felt that way, and it was a bit rough between us for a while. But she came to me and while told me that she simply wasn't attracted to me, she also explained how important I was to her as a friend, and how she still wanted me in her life as that friend. That was more than 6 years ago, and we're still close friends.
You cannot in any way force somebody to love you. Life and love does not work that way. They call it a "relationship" for a reason.
--- Quote ---Also...the fact that Angus LIKES BEING FRIENDS with Marigold kind of refutes the argument that he isn't drawn to something about her. He likes being friends with her. If he found her completely unworthy he wouldn't want anything to do with her.
Just needed to point that out too.
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Yeah...He likes her as a friend. Men and women can have friendships, very intimate ones in fact, without any kind of romantic attraction or sexual connection. My best friend is a woman (no, the same one as above). Angus has been her friend for a while; he obviously likes and values her as a person, which is why he's honest with her, doesn't want to use her (like Steve suggested), and continues to be her friend. It refutes nothing.
Just needed to point that out.
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