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WCDT: 2001-2005 (29 Aug-2 Sept 2011)

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Kugai:
I definitely think Marigold is going to either

A) Get a cot bed for Momo

OR

B) Get a bigger bed.

Somebody:

--- Quote from: Blackjoker on 02 Sep 2011, 03:30 ---Actually this is kind of a weird thought, how would Momo view the new body in terms of what it means. She can't just fit on a dresser and if she does 'sleep' or enter a kind of debug mode (not sure where but Pintsize mentions that he doesn't dream so AnthroPCs might not dream)...
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Because there haven't been enough links to this strip in the past week :psyduck:


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--- Quote from: snubnose on 02 Sep 2011, 05:51 ---Well, if Anthro-PCs would be people their treatment would indeed violate human rights.

As they are some kind of machines, no matter how lifelike Jeph portrays them, they arent sentient and they are ultimately tools to serve mankind.


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*aherm*

If you will allow me, could I please direct your attention to Exhibit A: The Measure of a Man

By claiming that they're tools, you are presenting essentially the same argument as Cmdr. Bruce Maddox, who himself (somewhat ironically) was a tool. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

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And also ignores the law in QCworld...


--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 02 Sep 2011, 10:05 ---A lot of the problem is that this business model does not exist in real life, it is foreign and confusing.  Nowhere can you buy something and then return it whenever you want for a full refund, no questions asked.  Nowhere can you buy a product and not own it.

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The problem here is that there are actually two points compressed into one:
1) The AI. Refundable contract fee, plain & simple. Think of it as a dowry, if that helps.
2) The chassis. This is rather more complicated, since there's hardware involved which can be upgraded, damaged, worn out, become obsolete, etc.  The contract  fee seems to ignore this entirely - especially since we have definitive proof new chassis can be bought (And what happens to Momo's old chassis now? Was it part-exchanged for the new one?).

Who ultimately owns the chassis - the AI (permanently gifted it by the human), or the human (who allows the AI to use it rent free on a landlord/tenant basis)? IOW, if Momo was to quit Marigold (unlikely given Momo's character, but play along), would she have to leave the chassis Marigold bought and head off to the cyberspace AI "job centre" to look for another human or other role (bank/nuclear sub/whatever)?

questionablecontentfan:
If Marigold loves Momo, like she says she does, I can't imagine her doing that. If Momo wanted to leave, I think Marigold would just let her go. I can't imagine her going... "Hey, I paid for that...hand over the chassis, lady!" No way.

Jeph could find some comic relief in Marigold's repeated attempts to keep Momo from sneaking into her bed at night, with Momo making various excuses "I thought you stopped breathing and I was just checking on you!"

 :)

bramblepatch:

--- Quote from: questionablecontentfan on 02 Sep 2011, 18:27 ---Oh HELL no. Marigold is much gentler and patient than I am.

I'd be going for blood. BLOOD.

I think I mentioned that already, inside we are similar but I lash out at others WAY more than Mari does. Compared to me, she's a saint...and I realize that this is not "the forum where we talk in depth about C's issues" but a forum to discuss QC.

I'm just saying, I identify with her and sometimes she drives me nuts because she's being WAY nicer than I would be. I actually have a look that I've used to make people cry before.

Now...you would THINK...that would make me more empathetic towards Faye...but, as it turns out, nope.

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Perhaps it's that you see aspects of yourself in both Marigold and Faye, but Mari's closer to your ideal of what you feel you should be like? I've kind of got the opposite going, myself, in that I'm something of a recluse who avoids face-to-face socialization when possible (leading me to identify strongly with Marigold), and I find my rare moments when I can actually bring myself to mouth off at someone, in person, in real time without looking over my words three times on a computer screen to be incredibly empowering. Which is why I hurt more for Faye - because she's putting herself out there in a way I really wish I could, and in my eyes if she gets hurt because of it, it's because she's far braver than I am - and Marigold's misfortunes are more likely to get a slightly squeamish wince from me. I've been in her shoes too many times and reacted in too similar a manner to glorify her tribulations.

questionablecontentfan:
I can't really explain why I like Mari so much. I don't think it's really something I can rationally explain.

My dislike of Faye is pretty rational, and I can make lists, though I can't be bothered.

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