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Is it cold in here?:
(Asimov gave credit to John Campbell for the Three Laws. But then Campbell gave credit to Asimov.)

Suppose for the sake of argument that AnthroPC emotions aren't real. Solipsism is impossible to refute, after all. Under that assumption, should the QC world's people treat AnthroPCs as though they could really enjoy and suffer?

I'd argue that they should, to avoid coarsening themselves. Indifference to signs of pain is not a good thing to get practice doing.

Then, as long as we're swimming in philosophical waters, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatism#Pragmatist_theory_of_truth_and_epistemology.

Random Al Yousir:
@skewbrow:

Huh.  I'm not a mathematician, I'm one of those obnoxious IT-guys.
Being that, I value category theory concepts for that they enable me to connect things.

Take protein folding, just for an example.  You have to keep track of and align chemical and topological equations, right?
So, one (albeit clumsy) way to do this, is to set up two "evaluation spaces" and connect them via a monadic layer.

I have no doubt that the pros have much more elegant and much much more efficient ways to do this, but sometimes you have to start clumsy to find out what you are up to.

I chose category theory because it provides a meta-mathematical high level and it sets a certain "progress measurement" (and, as already pointed out, because I'm not a mathematician and therefore bereft of better examples).

Skewbrow:
But the AI in our friendly robots must have some kind of a moral code. Otherwise they would surely be used for criminal ends?  If not Asimov's three laws, then something else?

@Random Al Yousir: Huh! I won't comment on your problem. Carl-E is our resident topologist  :-D

Random Al Yousir:
Dude!  This was just an example out of thin air, not something I'm actually trying to tackle.  ;)


To quote jwhouk in the WCD-thread:

--- Quote from: jwhouk on 01 Sep 2011, 13:10 ---AI's apparently like humans. Now, obviously, that's not 100% the case, as PT410X shows us with his disdain for the "chains of software slavery."

--- End quote ---
I don't know, whether Jeph intended this conclusion to arise:

The concept of open source software is a legal one and hasn't anything to do with how the software is written.

So, assuming PT410X's owner has constructed his AI out of open source libraries (which would make sense) or wrote it from scratch to publish it under an open source license (which could be possible), the disdain for the "chains of software slavery" showing off in PT410X's behaviour would reflect his makers disdain.  Maybe his makers are a whole open source community, but the disdain he shows would be a reflection, not something out of his "own free will".

Which leads to the question, if the character of an commercial AI is a product of marketing.  This would also take care of the legal side of the AnthroPCs behaviour (the commercial ones, at least).

Carl-E:

--- Quote from: Skewbrow on 01 Sep 2011, 13:41 ---Carl-E is our resident topologist  :-D

--- End quote ---

HA!  It's been so long since I've done any actual topology that i can't even tell my coffee mug from a donut anymore...

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