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pwhodges:
Today's XKCD has a view on AI.

Carl-E:

--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 06 Sep 2011, 15:51 ---You've completely missed the point of what I said.

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No, I don't think so...

After refuting a few other posts, you said: 


--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 06 Sep 2011, 14:41 ---
--- Quote from: Kyrendis on 06 Sep 2011, 12:01 ---And yes, a program will not evolve unless it is programmed to do so, but it can be programmed to perform a task and evolve by consequence if it has the capacity. And yes, that would be wider than has ever been given, that's kind of a given.
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There's no reason to give a program designed for a specific task that wide a berth, though.  That's why computers were built even when they had very limited processing power: they could do predefined tasks very well, and that's still what they're used for, just with much more complex tasks.  Some are allowed to learn from past experiences, but then, the scope of how they could their gained knowledge is predetermined.  To create programs that interact and mutate to the extent that would allow sentience to develop for any purpose other than AI research would be defeating the very purpose.

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The part in bold was my  point - AI research is ongoing, and people do  try programming learning behaviours with a wide berth.  That is  the purpose.  Everything else you said there is assuming it isn't done, but then you mention the one place where it is  done. 

And it will still probably be an accident...

Random Al Yousir:

--- Quote from: pwhodges on 07 Sep 2011, 08:20 ---Today's XKCD has a view on AI.

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On AI and on the burning man.  I had to look that up and, I must say, I'm certifiably impressed.

As for deploying AI to build chatterbots: Am I the only one who had to think of the old adage of E.W.Dijkstra:

"The effort of using machines to mimic the human mind has always struck me as rather silly: I'd rather use them to mimic something better."

Skewbrow:
Thanks, RAIY. Dijkstra's lecture makes for interesting reading.

Random Al Yousir:
You're welcome.   :-)

Of course, the language related ramblings of Dijkstra are hopelessly outdated.  Since you are a mathematician, you might enjoy the publications of Philip Wadler.

For the ambitiously pedagogical perspective you might find the work of Matthias Felleisen and Shriram Krishnamurthi interesting.  And there's simply no way around Don Box of Microsoft fame, in this field.

For the borderlining geeky stuff LtU is the best aggregator I know of.

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