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WCDT: 2006-2010 (5-9 Sep 2011)
Tova:
SLRRRP.
Oh well, so much for the easy option. Time to get to searching.
Throg:
(zomg, i'm a sig quote of one of the mods)
It's funny how easily even the hint of a homicidal / aggressive robot triggers the expectation of Blade-Runner-type scenarios. Cultural conditioning, I suppose.
I'm gonna guess it's practically certain that Momo will either end up at CoD, tSB, or in Deathmole/Marten's band -- just out of narrative necessity.
gangler:
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 05 Sep 2011, 03:50 ---See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.
Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.
Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?
I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
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Obligatory trope
Fun and relevant comic
Would I act differently in a different body? In all seriousness I have to believe I would. My social conditioning would remain the same but biologically I'd be an entirely separate being. Keeping the nurture but swapping the nature.
Though who's to say how that works as an AI? Hard drives are probably a bit more uniform than the biological brain, and the chemical component to biological thinking has probably been removed entirely.
Which of course is not to say that there aren't a host of other factors that would effect the change that would accompany adopting a new form. Quite likely your socialization has led to the associations with certain physical traits and appearances with certain other characteristics. When moving from one form to another these would likely become something that effects how you perceive yourself, which has a well documented track record of in turn effecting the self. In this respect even something like limb replacement could conceivably lead to the creation of new behaviors.
Edit: Crap crap. Gotta tie this back to the comic. So Momo's new behaviors are probably an entirely natural and likely documented part of the process of moving from one chassis to another. She's being a bit more willful which is likely due to her associating size with power to a degree, and potentially sees herself as a more equal or standard member of society now that she looks more like a person. If I were to take a wild guess. At the very least it is evident that she's much more comfortable operating on the social level of a the rest of the cast now.
Does this make her a new character? I wouldn't think so. Characters aren't meant to be static beings. I'd personally categorize it with character development or possibly just the variance that one can expect of the same character in multiple situations and scenarios. Often a character will lead one life in times of war, but display no predisposition for it in a peaceful scenario for example. Dora's sass levels have been shown to fluctuate depending on her current hair. Same general category. Seeing a new side of the same person as opposed to the birthing of a new person using the old as a framework.
I'm loving new Momo's moodier faces. Any bets on where she'll end up working? There's that bakery, but I can't really think of any established locations that would have us visiting her at work terribly frequently.
J:
--- Quote from: gangler on 05 Sep 2011, 05:31 ---
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 05 Sep 2011, 03:50 ---See, I said before that everyone would start treating Momo differently now - and look - Faye called her 'kiddo'.
Momo is not a kiddo. But everyone will treat her like one. Not necessarily a bad thing, mark you; I'm just pointing out that nobody would ever have thought of calling Momo 'kiddo' before, even though she was the exact same character.
Of course, that in itself is a question - IS Momo the same character? Is character defined by personality or shape? Everyone will rush to say that personality is the most important, but how much of a difference does the shape make? If you could suddenly wake up one day in a different body, would you act differently? We certainly know Momo has behaved a little differently since the new chassis, but is that enough to make her a different 'person'?
I have to say that Momo's transformation reminds me very strongly of the feeling you get when meeting someone for the first time in ten years or so, having last seen them as a child. That young kid who you remember being a cute little eight year-old, now a grown adult in their twenties. It's entirely disconcerting.
--- End quote ---
Obligatory trope
Fun and relevant comic
Would I act differently in a different body? In all seriousness I have to believe I would. My social conditioning would remain the same but biologically I'd be an entirely separate being. Keeping the nurture but swapping the nature.
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actually, i'd say it's hard to believe you wouldn't. while your memories and experiences remain the same, your hormone and chemical balance would be changed completely. in the short term your moods and emotions would be unpredictable, as they interact with your established memories you may find you feel very different about some key experiences in your life. and that's assuming you jumped into a statistically normal body, can you imagine suddenly finding yourself in a body with a severe chemical or hormone imbalance?
in the longer term the physiological change would probably even out, but then there's the change in personal experience. if you look different people will treat you differently, and if you have a different body type it will change the way you interact with the world. and again, that's assuming you don't end up in the body of a world class athlete. or the body of a cripple.
Carl-E:
Heck, just teh point of view that she now sees the world from (much taller) will make a difference in how she percieves herself and interacts with others!
On the job front, Momo could pull a Wil - get a job at a less-frequented establishment, effectively disappearing from the comic for long stretches of time, only to reappear and complain about work (but with a decidedly Momo-tan positive spin).
With her socila protocol database, she's more likely to go into the service industry. Maybe even work from home in customer service?
I know, how about Robo-calling? :laugh:
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