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WCDT: 2021-2025 (26-30 Sep 2011)
TinPenguin:
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--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 26 Sep 2011, 14:48 ---@Throg - Why would anyone want to limit themselves like that?
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You don't know much about India, do you? Just Google the word "caste system" and you'll realize the answer.
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Why would that apply to someone like Padma who was almost certainly born in the US?
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Immigrant communities can be very tight (and demanding). I know it's certainly the case in Britain that many Indians only date/marry other Indians. Admittedly, this tends to be in situations where the community is such that other Indians make up the entirety of their socialising. For an example of how even second or third generations immigrants can behave in these matters, I had it verbatim from a Muslim friend who said she would never "go with" anyone who wasn't Muslim, and though I doubt that would be such an issue for Hindus, religion, tradition and or/culture can play an important part in this. Padma, however, seems very free of that kind of thing, and I really don't think that it is the matter at hand here. It is an interesting thought, though.
Mr_Rose:
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 26 Sep 2011, 15:52 ---
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 26 Sep 2011, 15:40 ---
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 26 Sep 2011, 14:51 ---
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 26 Sep 2011, 14:48 ---@Throg - Why would anyone want to limit themselves like that?
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You don't know much about India, do you? Just Google the word "caste system" and you'll realize the answer.
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Why would that apply to someone like Padma who was almost certainly born in the US?
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Immigrant communities can be very tight (and demanding). I know it's certainly the case in Britain that many Indians only date/marry other Indians. Admittedly, this tends to be in situations where the community is such that other Indians make up the entirety of their socialising. For an example of how even second or third generations immigrants can behave in these matters, I had it verbatim from a Muslim friend who said she would never "go with" anyone who wasn't Muslim, and though I doubt that would be such an issue for Hindus, religion, tradition and or/culture can play an important part in this. Padma, however, seems very free of that kind of thing, and I really don't think that it is the matter at hand here. It is an interesting thought, though.
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Don't confuse religion and race when it comes to relationships pls. Many Christians won't date non-Christians either, or even outside their peculiar denomination, but that doesn't preclude them dating people with wildly variant ethno-genetic histories. As long as they have the religion in common. Also the issue of religious conversion exists - it is rather more difficult to engineer a total somatic gene-conversion, much less make it do anything other than cause cancer.
And while the endogamy problem is particularly pronounced in first and second generation immigrants, it is so pronounced in all immigrant sub-cultures, not just ones that originate in regions where castes are a matter of legal force. Interestingly, though, it almost never applies to individuals who immigrate independently of others from the same locale, or that settle outside established "<ethnicity>-quarter"s.
As for Padma, the fact that she wants/is prepared to move across the country would seem to indicate that she has her own ideas on the topic; the sort of tight-knit groups that discourage relationships outside of the group tend to be geographically small and also tend to discourage moving hundreds or thousands of miles away.
TinPenguin:
--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 26 Sep 2011, 16:12 ---Don't confuse religion and race when it comes to relationships pls.
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I wasn't, I was simply musing that the one often comes part and parcel with the other. After all, Hinduism is as much to do with culture as it is to with religion; it is not so evangelistic as the Abrahamic lot.
Anyway, our long posts are both irrelevant, as we have both said Padma is clearly outside of that kind of community.
I think whatever is on Elliott's mind is something to do with Elliott, not Padma. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would start speaking for someone else, when most of the time he has enough trouble speaking for himself.
stoutfiles:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 26 Sep 2011, 15:23 ---
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 26 Sep 2011, 12:47 ---If Faye dumped Angus and kissed Marten, would he push her away and say "No, I only love you as a friend, don't do that"? He would kiss her back because he loves her, and has only accepted that she doesn't feel the same way. Yes, they are friends but in moments of weakness he is still sad about it and rightfully so.
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I am still sad about the breakdown of my first marriage (that was a relationship of 23 years, so probably a stronger link than Marten's never-quite-a-relationship with Faye); but if my first wife turned up at the door proclaiming that our separation was all a terrible mistake, I would not, I assure you, fall into her arms. The world has moved on, we have moved on, and it could never be the same again. All the time, everywhere, people change; circumstances change; feelings change - so it seems odd to me that you invest so much in the unchangeability of something that was never even fully formed.
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If you were really drunk you probably wouldn't try to make out with her either. So there's a difference.
DSL:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 26 Sep 2011, 15:23 ---... I am still sad about the breakdown of my first marriage (that was a relationship of 23 years, so probably a stronger link than Marten's never-quite-a-relationship with Faye); but if my first wife turned up at the door proclaiming that our separation was all a terrible mistake, I would not, I assure you, fall into her arms.
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I would never presume to comment on your situation, but Faye's not going to "show up at Marten's door." She's going to be sitting on the couch, or heading into the kitchen in search of the ice cream in the freezer ... she lives there, a reminder of what could have been. Marten and Faye both know that; indeed, Marten has had to talk himself out of being bothered by the fact Faye and Angus are an item. Angus has been worried at least once that Faye's torch still smolders for Marten -- and Faye ... well, you can argue her comments in recent strips make her a cruel bitch or you can argue she's putting up a wall of sass to protect herself and Marten, who's not sure (even if some of us are) why his feelings are hurt by the comment about the beauty of Angus-booty.
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