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WCDT 2036 - 2040, Oct 17th - 21st 2011
nonethousand:
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--- Quote from: iduguphergrave on 21 Oct 2011, 02:18 ---I'd just like to put in that not letting her go out and make a fool of herself in public is considerate.
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But he's not preventing that, he's ditching her. There's no telling what she might do if left to her own devices.
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I have to say that I'm more than happy the Marten-Faye relationship doesn't follow the same route as the Ross-Rachel one (Friends TV show)... :evil:
Cornan:
--- Quote from: VonKleist on 21 Oct 2011, 02:30 ---Leaving Faye at the apartement = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bad friend"
Staying to make sure Faye doesn't do anything stupid = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bossy jerk"
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Pretty much.
Remember, folks. We know things that Marten DOESN'T. He has no idea why Faye's drunk. He just knows that she came home after drinking too much. For all he knows she had a couple extra with Angus before he got on the train for NYC and came home silly. Blaming him for not asking her what's wrong only makes sense if you assume that he has a reason to equate Faye drinking with a "problem situation". Given how many times she's drank in the strip when there was NOTHING major going on this seems to be a silly leap to make. Faye did drink as a coping mechanism but it wasn't the ONLY reason she drank. Marten has no reason to assume anything out of the ordinary is going on and he's annoyed that his friend got trashed before they were going to go to a party so he plans to leave her at home. What's the big deal?
Tova:
--- Quote from: Cornan on 21 Oct 2011, 02:49 ---
--- Quote from: VonKleist on 21 Oct 2011, 02:30 ---Leaving Faye at the apartement = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bad friend"
Staying to make sure Faye doesn't do anything stupid = "Oh noes, Marten is such a bossy jerk"
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Pretty much.
Remember, folks. We know things that Marten DOESN'T. He has no idea why Faye's drunk. He just knows that she came home after drinking too much. For all he knows she had a couple extra with Angus before he got on the train for NYC and came home silly. Blaming him for not asking her what's wrong only makes sense if you assume that he has a reason to equate Faye drinking with a "problem situation". Given how many times she's drank in the strip when there was NOTHING major going on this seems to be a silly leap to make. Faye did drink as a coping mechanism but it wasn't the ONLY reason she drank. Marten has no reason to assume anything out of the ordinary is going on and he's annoyed that his friend got trashed before they were going to go to a party so he plans to leave her at home. What's the big deal?
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You stole my reply!
Seriously, my exact thought on reading VonKleist's post was "Pretty much", then I scrolled down to see someone had already said it.
There are some terribly judgemental people around here...
themacnut:
Yeah I get the distinct feeling from Marten's behavior toward her that he thinks Faye just got plastered on a whim, just 'cause she likes her liquor strong and plentiful. As Cornan said, Faye also gets drunk for fun, not just when she's stressed. And since she's putting on this cheerful facade, how's he to know any different? He can't read her mind, and he didn't see the I Love You exchange between her and Angus, so he really has no reason to suspect anything's wrong. Not unless she starts sobbing or otherwise looking downcast, and she probably won't let herself do either until after he leaves.
Marten's a guy, so like most guys he tends to miss the subtleties of female behavior that indicate something may be wrong with the woman in his life. I also strongly suspect that Faye wouldn't tell him anything was wrong at this point even if he asked. She'd just maintain the cheerful drunk demeanor and deny anything was up.
westrim:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 21 Oct 2011, 03:18 ---Yeah I get the distinct feeling from Marten's behavior toward her that he thinks Faye just got plastered on a whim, just 'cause she likes her liquor strong and plentiful. As Cornan said, Faye also gets drunk for fun, not just when she's stressed. And since she's putting on this cheerful facade, how's he to know any different? He can't read her mind, and he didn't see the I Love You exchange between her and Angus, so he really has no reason to suspect anything's wrong. Not unless she starts sobbing or otherwise looking downcast, and she probably won't let herself do either until after he leaves.
Marten's a guy, so like most guys he tends to miss the subtleties of female behavior that indicate something may be wrong with the woman in his life. I also strongly suspect that Faye wouldn't tell him anything was wrong at this point even if he asked. She'd just maintain the cheerful drunk demeanor and deny anything was up.
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Why do you think it's a facade? Why would she sob or be downcast or have something wrong?
This isn't a negative event, this is a giant positive. She's reacting to its size, not its quality. The man she cares about said loves her, she said it back, and now she's grappling with the dimension of that. If she starts crying, they're gonna be tears of joy or tension, not sadness. Right now, she's genuinely, cheerfully happy- in vino veritas and all that.
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