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A Capitalist Christmas
Barmymoo:
I was in Paris for Chinese New Year last year and the parade was brilliant, I loved it. Much better than any new year celebrations in the UK, which seem to consist of drinking a year's worth of alcohol in one go and vomiting on things.
Zingoleb:
But if I give you money, and you give me money, then we're just kind of even?
Lupercal:
Money seems weird and impersonal. I guess after 2 years of Uni I could've asked for money, but I'm a little materialistic and like to HAVE things. But this year I'm getting a Kindle I think, which will definitely save a lot of money from getting books (mostly classics) that I have to buy for my course. "Ulysses" etc will be free, so yeah. Money saved? And trees saved. Although I like to actually have a physical book too, but that is for the ebook discussion somewhere else.
I think I enjoy buying presents more than I like receiving them, contrary to what I just wrote. I mean since I've been back at studying, my xbox has turned into a dvd player, and the only thing i seem to be spending money on is clothes every once in a while and guitar strings. I like giving, especially when you can see the reaction of said family member when you get them something they didn't even ask for. Oh yeah, foresight.
Zingoleb:
--- Quote from: Lupercal on 08 Nov 2011, 17:13 ---And trees saved.
--- End quote ---
I've been curious as to how much is saved by eBooks. You'd have to count the production of a book vs. the production of the Kindle, aka trees, water, the chemicals used for processing paper, shipping, and ink, versus all the plastics/metals/chips and whatnot that goes into a eBook reader. I should go look into this - at what point (how many books does it take) is there less environmental impact from buying an eBook reader as opposed to buying paper books?
dr. nervioso:
I think that an ebook is really better for the environment. I mean sure, an ebook costs a decent amount of resources, but considering it can hold hundreds of books one would otherwise use paper for every single book.
So your choices are
Ebook: A single blow to the environment. Though larger, it spares resources that would be used for regular books.
Regular books: Multiple blows.
So it really depends on how much an individual reads. The more books they read, they more benefit they are giving to the environment.
Though, if producers take the fucking apple route and turn into dicks and release new ebooks once every freakin' six months, the benefit will kinda be cancelled out
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