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WCDT 2081-85 (Christmas Week - Dec. 19-23, 2011)

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dragontart:
Does the poll refer to the feeling one has for somebody else, or to the state of a relationship between two persons? For the first one, I consider "loves you back" as completely unnecessary and kind of a bad reason, but it would be essential for the second.
Also the loved one being dead would certainly harm the latter, but not the first definition.
However I picked worldviews, showing interest (since how else would you check if your "worldviews" fit together) and taking polls.

lepetitfromage:

--- Quote from: cuzsis on 21 Dec 2011, 18:06 --- Love is....
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thank you for that. it was so wonderfully worded and so true. (can i make it my poll answer???  :-P)



--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 22 Dec 2011, 02:57 ---
--- Quote from: snubnose on 22 Dec 2011, 01:46 ---Aside from love itself, they also need to have the same basic lifegoals as you. People who are ambitious wont harmonize with a common slob. People who view moneymaking as a great way to spend your life wont harmonize a lot with people who seek for knowledge. I choose "worldview" as the closest match instead, but its really hardly the same.

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Whaaaaaat. You can't just say that. What do "ambitious" and "common slob" even mean? A person who enjoys a relaxing job which allows them to pursue their hobbies isn't necessarily considered ambitious, but I don't see how that makes them incompatible with an ambitious person. Ambitious people are competitive. Have you ever had to compete with your partner so you felt worthy of dating them? It suuuuuuucks.

It's counter-intuitive for an ambitious person to date a relaxed person, since it sounds a bit like dating someone "worse" than you to feel happy. However, it's not about being better or worse, it's about the fact that the relaxed person doesn't care, and nullifies the competition - nobody feels insecure or needs to make the other feel bad. I'm not in favour of one pairing over another, just offering another perspective.


--- Quote --- beautiful people can fall in love with ugly people
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I think ambition, money and knowledge are almost as superficial qualities as beauty when it comes to romance.

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while i don't neccesarily agree with everything snubnose said (i think the moneymaking/knowledge pairing was a bit off....they don't really have to be completely separate), i think ambitious can be simplified in this sense to someone who wants some sort of meaning in their life- be it from work, hobbies, volunteering, etc. you don't have to be a workaholic to be considered ambitious, just someone who always strives for improvement. as for the "meaning" of common slob? i'm assuming you really were serious, so here we go: how about someone who floats through life with no direction, no passion and no drive to make something better for themselves? let's look at 2 examples-

i have an ex that works dead end job after dead end job, constantly complains about his life, has 3 kids by 3 different mothers and has been married and divorced twice. His idea of a good night is making it through a 12 pack. He's 26. I thank my lucky stars that we did not last.

While i'm not living my ideal life, i am engaged to a wonderful man, i've had a steady job for 4+ years, i make enough money to pay all my bills and save up to pay for the wedding of my dreams with my future husband (without using credit cards or loans). I have a college education, a close circle of friends, hobbies that i love doing and attainable goals for the future. I'm not the most ambitious person in the world, but I'm doing what works for me and not simply settling with the worst case scenario.

i also don't quite agree that ambition and knowledge are as superficial as beauty. those things are qualities that we posses based on our personalities- those things that make us desirable to our partners. knowledge is not something you are born with- you have to seek it and work hard for it. one could argue that you have to work for ambition too. if you don't nurture it with motivation and means, ambition can actually be a pretty depressing thing.

out of curiosity....do you find a sense of humor to be superficial as well?

Kugai:
Well, one crisis averted by Dr. Pantsless, only to have another crisis created

But then you know what they say


A Cookie Bag shared is a Cookie Bag quickly eaten   :-D



Seriously though, it's nice to see Marten giving good advice - pantsless or not - and all it cost Faye was a bag of cookies and not the $100 an hour it would have probably cost to visit Dr. Corrine.

raoullefere:
I voted for "breathing." I know there are some people who think that's just an obvious qualification and skipped it, but I'd posit said have never seen that documentary about Lovedolls.

NotAwesomeAnymore:

--- Quote from: lepetitfromage on 22 Dec 2011, 09:48 ---out of curiosity....do you find a sense of humor to be superficial as well?

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Ah, ok, I see what you mean about ambition - but then I don't think the opposite of ambition is necessarily irresponsible with no interests. I was thinking, like, stay-at-home-Dad opposite-of-ambitious.

Maybe superficial wasn't a good word? I mean, I don't think people are born with conventional beauty necessarily - a lot of it takes work. You have to eat healthy and exercise (unless you have a killer metabolism), as well as be clean and well-groomed, and have a decent sense of fashion. Although I'd probably like to date someone with knowledge and a sense of humour, not everyone would say things like that are dealbreakers in a relationship the way most would say dishonesty is a dealbreaker. Knowledge, money and a sense of humour are all attractive things about a person, but not everyone values them the same.  And like a beautiful person might love an ugly person, a smart person might love an idiot - seen it happen, quite successfully.

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