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WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)
truestatic:
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 13 Jan 2012, 00:34 ---To say that it is all on her, and to extrapolate that it is something "women do" and to go on about how "women play games" or to call her a "bitch" is when we take a nice detour into open sexism and misogyny!
Also, some of you may not know this, but there is such a thing as male privilege! It's not really a cool thing and it's even less cool to enforce it!
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I do think it's mostly on her. I don't think it's a thing that 'women do.' I think that both men and women are perfectly capable of 'playing games.' I know that gendered insults are a bad thing, I try to avoid them. I know that male privilege is also a thing. That's not something I'm trying to promote. I don't know if any of this was addressed at me, but if it was, I'm really sorry, the last thing I want to do is offend the members of this community. I understand that this is a very sensitive subject and typically try to avoid discussing it in any light except with those people I know and trust most.
Napoleon_Blownapart:
I'd just like to comment that I don't think Padma is a "fucking bitch" for getting scared of becoming too emotionally involved and thus running away. I do think it's emotionally immature when people behave like that (and many people of both sexes do). I only hold the opinion that Marten's choices and actions in handling the situation are reasonable and justified and will ultimately make his life better and happier rather than more miserable.
Dr. ROFLPWN:
--- Quote from: HodorBaggins on 13 Jan 2012, 00:55 ---
--- Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN on 13 Jan 2012, 00:34 ---But the point is that none of that makes his behavior okay, he acted like a fucking jackass.
To say that it is all on her, . . . or to call her a "bitch" is when we take a nice detour into open sexism and misogyny!
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I don't see how these two statements can coexist in the same brain? If Marten is a "fucking jackass" for his actions, how is Padma not a "fucking bitch" for hers?
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1.) Padma stopped her bad behavior when she called Marten up and wanted to see him
2.) Padma is not a male, and does not benefit from male privilege
3.) "Jackass" is not a gendered insult being used to subjugate and belittle an entire social group
HodorBaggins:
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 13 Jan 2012, 01:03 ---I'd just like to comment that I don't think Padma is a "fucking bitch" for getting scared of becoming too emotionally involved and thus running away. I do think it's emotionally immature when people behave like that (and many people of both sexes do). I only hold the opinion that Marten's choices and actions in handling the situation are reasonable and justified and will ultimately make his life better and happier rather than more miserable.
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Likewise, I don't think Padma is a fucking bitch, I just don't see how you can name-call on Marten for his mistakes, and then immediately afterwards say doing the same thing to Padma is sexist.
I think they both handled the situation poorly, both made mistakes, to the detriment of both people.
Dust:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 13 Jan 2012, 00:49 ---
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 13 Jan 2012, 00:39 ---I'm starting to think that the concept of "doormat" is as toxic as "nice guy".
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In many people's minds, they are the same thing, and equally bad. Especially for the person who thinks of themselves in those terms.
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Agreed.
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