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WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)
ilikefishfood:
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--- Quote from: truestatic on 12 Jan 2012, 21:35 ---Now that we know she's actually decided to leave earlier than she had intended according to her amended plan, I have just lost more of my sympathy for Padma. :| "Hey, I decided you aren't worth sticking around for after all, wanna get together tonight?"
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... perhaps she changed her plans again after Marten shot her down.
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She started the call by telling him she wasn't staying. Or are you suggesting his rejection might have somehow convinced her to stay in town? :?
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Yup, I'm wrong.
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Not necessarily.
She may've taken Marten's joking response to her attempt to have a serious conversation ("Why couldn't I have met you a year ago") as being somewhat shot down. She moped about it for a week, then tried again to let him know she was feeling blue and he still didn't react so to speak. This too from her perspective could've been viewed as being shot down. After that she might've just figured she'd leave earlier.
Then of course, there's Tova's most interesting observation. Maybe she realized she did have to leaver earlier, and was trying to tell him that last time they were in bed together. Buuuut they were totally on different wave lengths and it was all downhill from there.
Oh...and I feel really bad that he didn't call her back. They could've at least talked on the phone and sorted out some stuff :cry:
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Tova on 13 Jan 2012, 02:34 ---So why didn't she? We may never know the answer, but I think it's the key to the whole shenanigans.
Whatever it was, I don't think it's callousness. That doesn't seem Jeph's style.
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Have you never put off doing something because of the pain it will cause (to yourself even, not necessarily others), even though putting it off will cause more pain later? I know I have. So how about this:
Padma wanted to delay going; when she tried to arrange it, her family put pressure on her (and how they can!) not to change her plans (possibly even before their last night together, which is why she was so conflicted); she couldn't bear to tell Marten, and so avoided him until there was no further option. This avoidance was sad, though understandable in a flawed world; Marten's reaction was equally unfortunate, but somewhat understandable. I have sympathy with them both, but also would like to knock their heads together...
Overkillengine:
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--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 11 Jan 2012, 21:57 ---Congrats Jeph, you wrote Marten brilliantly. I'd be tired of being fucked around too if I were him.
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I'm with Napoleon on this. Marten got well and truly yanked around by Padma over the past week or so (and not in the fun way), 'bout time he did some yanking of his own. Why did you do that Marten? Because you're most likely PISSED at the way Padma's been treating you lately, that's why. Bravo for showing some spine.
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Yowch, Marten.
I'm all for a person standing up for themselves; but just telling her that you are busy and blowing her off like this isn't constructive unless the person already possessed the amount of personal insight/reflection needed to avoid having pulled the week of silence in the first place.
DannicaJ:
I just joined the forum (after a long time lurking) due to the recent arc.
Marten acted like an asshole. Let's not forget this. Instead of confrontation, which he is terrible at, he chose to not make it cut any deeper, and f$#@ Padma and what she feels. I can understand that. Still a terrible thing to do. But it's as close to being manly as he's ever been, so I guess I can justify that with him being "just a dude", and therefor sometimes inexplicably a dick (*giggity*).
On the other hand, he has a solid reason. A girl that he thought was in a good relationship with, for seemingly no reason, gave him the cold shoulder and decided to move away faster, while offering no explanation. Being left to hang like that is a pain that most people (of both sexes) know, and hate. If he met her, he would either lash out, which Marten seems incapable of, or try and make nice only to have it hurt more later. So being so non-confrontational, it really makes sense for him as a person to do this.
Padma reacted badly to going away, and decided to cut it off cleanly. A logical reaction for an emotional problem (I think Marten's joke reply made the situation hit home - I think she thought it was extremely cute, and noticed she was totally falling for him). But logic doesn't always work out. She was being just as childish as Marten. Instead of celebrating the good things about meeting him, and leaving with a bag of good memories to keep instead of the sour note of how it ended, she just tried to hide from it. I think this is why Padma and Marten could have worked out much better than Dora... because deep down, they have the potential to feel each other's emotional process. And they just look adorable together :D
What left me disappointed is Faye's reaction to this. She knows what Marten's been through, and instead of trying to understand why he acted the way he did (clue: he told her already), she automatically lashes out at him. Then again, she has her reasons for not liking men who have no patience for emotional BS. But of all people, she should have been able to empathize with Marten's situation. Has her relationship been going that well that she forgot what it's like to just not be able to act like an adult in an emotional mess? I never thought Faye was that kind of girl.
This was basically Marten's equivalent of sobbing and eating delicious chocolate ice-cream. And she just left him he was right to do that instead of offering any support. This might be a realistic end (because sometimes the world just sucks that way), with Marten eventually breaking down (no Dora to bail him out from this mess this time, and no Faye to give him a quick feel-good speech)... but it's just so sad. I like happy Marten, he's cute! T_T
Tova:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 13 Jan 2012, 02:51 ---Have you never put off doing something because of the pain it will cause (to yourself even, not necessarily others), even though putting it off will cause more pain later?
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Ohhh yes.
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 13 Jan 2012, 02:51 ---I know I have. So how about this:
Padma wanted to delay going; when she tried to arrange it, her family put pressure on her (and how they can!) not to change her plans (possibly even before their last night together, which is why she was so conflicted); she couldn't bear to tell Marten, and so avoided him until there was no further option. This avoidance was sad, though understandable in a flawed world; Marten's reaction was equally unfortunate, but somewhat understandable. I have sympathy with them both, but also would like to knock their heads together...
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A simple and therefore quite believeable theory.
And yeah, I'm with you on the last sentence.
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