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WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 13 Jan 2012, 03:15 --- :psyduck: Good god, anyone who is still saying Marten acted like an asshole, clearly hasn't the slightest clue what a real "asshole" is.
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You reckon?
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 12 Jan 2012, 23:49 ---Yet the consensus here seems to be that Marten is acting like an "asshole" by standing up for himself and refusing to let his heart be ripped out through his anus one more time.
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Marten lied to Padma as an un-thought-out act of petty revenge which he immediately regretted, but then did nothing to put right - and the next day looked for reassurance, which he didn't get. He threw away the chance of a final night of (bitter-sweet) fun. This was not "standing up for himself". He was stupid; understandably so, but still stupid.
quix0te:
FWIW, I think Marten's response has been blown out of proportion by the comic and the thread. He didn't curse her out. He didn't yell at her. He simply disengaged after she gave every sign that she wanted to disengage. If she had other crap going on, I find it hard to believe it was so amazingly engrossing that she couldn't call/email/text back and say "I'm sorry I didn't call/text, I'm doing XXXX" or even, "Sorry I haven't responded. Do miss you."
His response was a perfectly valid response to being blown off.
The highest probability scenario on her side was that she was playing games or otherwise deliberately ignoring him. If he goes over, the probability is high that some further shenanigans will ensue, before or after breakup sex.
Bugger that for soldiers.
TinPenguin:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 13 Jan 2012, 02:51 ---I have sympathy with them both, but also would like to knock their heads together...
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Aye.
People are rarely callous but mostly stupid.
truestatic:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 13 Jan 2012, 03:31 ---
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 13 Jan 2012, 03:15 --- :psyduck: Good god, anyone who is still saying Marten acted like an asshole, clearly hasn't the slightest clue what a real "asshole" is.
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You reckon?
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 12 Jan 2012, 23:49 ---Yet the consensus here seems to be that Marten is acting like an "asshole" by standing up for himself and refusing to let his heart be ripped out through his anus one more time.
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Marten lied to Padma as an un-thought-out act of petty revenge which he immediately regretted, but then did nothing to put right - and the next day looked for reassurance, which he didn't get. He threw away the chance of a final night of (bitter-sweet) fun. This was not "standing up for himself". He was stupid; understandably so, but still stupid.
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I didn't even think of it that way at all. I thought it was a way to avoid telling her the blunt truth, which would probably have been even more hurtful. "No, I don't want to see you." Youch.
I saw his refusing to see her as absolutely standing up for himself. It hurt him to hurt her, and it hurt him to say goodbye like that, but it seems a perfectly valid expression of his feelings.
Differences of opinion, I guess.
Soulsynger:
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 12 Jan 2012, 23:49 ---[ ... ]
What I'm really trying to say is that the people who think Marten is an asshole, probably also believe that being the "bigger person" means allowing yourself to be further crushed by listening to the self-serving apologetic crap spouted by the girl who screwed with you, while your own anger and accusation of thoughtlessness on the girl's part ellicits a shrug and a "So I made a mistake! I am what I am." reply.
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Woah, clearly there are issues here. :-D
If Marten was really as heartbroken by what Padma did as some people here seem, it would show more, methinks.
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