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WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)
truestatic:
--- Quote from: Soulsynger on 13 Jan 2012, 04:34 ---(I love assumptions btw.)
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When you ASSUME you make Soulsynger pretty happy?
Overkillengine:
--- Quote from: truestatic on 13 Jan 2012, 03:50 ---
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 13 Jan 2012, 03:31 ---
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 13 Jan 2012, 03:15 --- :psyduck: Good god, anyone who is still saying Marten acted like an asshole, clearly hasn't the slightest clue what a real "asshole" is.
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You reckon?
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 12 Jan 2012, 23:49 ---Yet the consensus here seems to be that Marten is acting like an "asshole" by standing up for himself and refusing to let his heart be ripped out through his anus one more time.
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Marten lied to Padma as an un-thought-out act of petty revenge which he immediately regretted, but then did nothing to put right - and the next day looked for reassurance, which he didn't get. He threw away the chance of a final night of (bitter-sweet) fun. This was not "standing up for himself". He was stupid; understandably so, but still stupid.
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I didn't even think of it that way at all. I thought it was a way to avoid telling her the blunt truth, which would probably have been even more hurtful. "No, I don't want to see you." Youch.
I saw his refusing to see her as absolutely standing up for himself. It hurt him to hurt her, and it hurt him to say goodbye like that, but it seems a perfectly valid expression of his feelings.
Differences of opinion, I guess.
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"Well, not getting return calls for a week kind of irritated me to the point that it's probably best I not see you for now."
There are polite but firm assertive ways to tell the truth, and avoid "polite lies" that tend to further complicate things.
Soulsynger:
--- Quote from: truestatic on 13 Jan 2012, 04:36 ---
--- Quote from: Soulsynger on 13 Jan 2012, 04:34 ---(I love assumptions btw.)
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When you ASSUME you make Soulsynger pretty happy?
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Yes...? ... and I assume you were trying to make a joke there. I don't get it. °O
truestatic:
--- Quote from: Soulsynger on 13 Jan 2012, 04:42 ---
--- Quote from: truestatic on 13 Jan 2012, 04:36 ---
--- Quote from: Soulsynger on 13 Jan 2012, 04:34 ---(I love assumptions btw.)
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When you ASSUME you make Soulsynger pretty happy?
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Yes...? ... and I assume you were trying to make a joke there. I don't get it. °O
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It looks like mostly I just make an ass of me.
--- Quote from: Overkillengine on 13 Jan 2012, 04:40 ---"Well, not getting return calls for a week kind of irritated me to the point that it's probably best I not see you for now."
There are polite but firm assertive ways to tell the truth, and avoid "polite lies" that tend to further complicate things.
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I know, I just didn't think his primary goal was to hurt her.
Border Reiver:
Been going through this arc thinking that it is a pretty good representation of a relationship that has changed, and that neither party recognizes it at the same time, nor in the same way.
This, coupled with the challenges both parties have with clear communication have brought us to where they are - both hurt, alone, and in at least Marten's case being called out by both himself and his best friend.
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