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WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)

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truestatic:

--- Quote from: Milesb on 14 Jan 2012, 15:27 ---I found Marten's face portraying such anger and resentment as a likely indicator that Faye's tone was rather sharp, personally.

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In the panel she says it, to me, he mostly just looks deflated and fragile.  I'm not making any implications about what that means for her tone though, I thought that was his face when he was uttering the words, not for when she interjected.

Arrgh:

--- Quote ---Faye's terms of endearment for Marten are pretty indelicate, but they're also warm.  "You are an asshole!" conveyed absolutely no warmth, to me, though tone can be difficult to convey in comics.

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It seemed to me she was trying to snap him out of self pity by using his own words. I just don't get the impression that Faye literally thinks that Martin is an asshole, and I don't think Martin took it as "she thinks I'm an asshole in general." You don't live with someone on purpose that you think is an asshole, but sometimes friends in their 20s talk like that to each other., e.g., "you were a dick last night at the bar", "you're a monstrous slob," or "you're an asshole" for telling a girl you're supposedly "in love with" that you're busy on the last night she's in town just to get back at her.

Omega Entity:

--- Quote from: truestatic on 14 Jan 2012, 15:36 ---

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In the panel she says it, to me, he mostly just looks deflated and fragile.  I'm not making any implications about what that means for her tone though, I thought that was his face when he was uttering the words, not for when she interjected.
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Agreed on the last panel. He seems more shocked and a little dismayed that Faye didn't jump right in and contradict him, in my opinion.


--- Quote from: Arrgh on 14 Jan 2012, 15:41 ---
--- Quote ---Faye's terms of endearment for Marten are pretty indelicate, but they're also warm.  "You are an asshole!" conveyed absolutely no warmth, to me, though tone can be difficult to convey in comics.

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It seemed to me she was trying to snap him out of self pity by using his own words. I just don't get the impression that Faye literally thinks that Martin is an asshole, and I don't think Martin took it as "she thinks I'm an asshole in general." You don't live with someone on purpose that you think is an asshole, but sometimes friends in their 20s talk like that to each other., e.g., "you were a dick last night at the bar", "you're a monstrous slob," or "you're an asshole" for telling a girl you're supposedly "in love with" that you're busy on the last night she's in town just to get back at her.

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This! This was along the lines of what I had in mind, but sometimes I'm horrible about getting things into understandable terms. When my friends were blunt with me, it was to make me snap out of it, to make me realize that what I was doing wasn't working.

truestatic:

--- Quote from: Arrgh on 14 Jan 2012, 15:41 ---
--- Quote ---Faye's terms of endearment for Marten are pretty indelicate, but they're also warm.  "You are an asshole!" conveyed absolutely no warmth, to me, though tone can be difficult to convey in comics.

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It seemed to me she was trying to snap him out of self pity by using his own words. I just don't get the impression that Faye literally thinks that Martin is an asshole, and I don't think Martin took it as "she thinks I'm an asshole in general." You don't live with someone on purpose that you think is an asshole, but sometimes friends in their 20s talk like that to each other., e.g., "you were a dick last night at the bar", "you're a monstrous slob," or "you're an asshole" for telling a girl you're supposedly "in love with" that you're busy on the last night she's in town just to get back at her.

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No argument there.  My friends and I trash talk eachother all the time, and yes, sometimes the ugly words aren't entirely in jest.  I don't remember what my original point was.  Maybe I didn't have one.  Also, I'd say that if he ever was actually "in love" with Padma, the spell was probably broken before he rejected her.

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Just imagine how much more confused the characters would be if they could hear our analyses and advice.

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