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WCDT 2101-2105 (January 16-20, 2012) - A New Hope
ZBixby:
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--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 16 Jan 2012, 13:03 ---I hope not. That's kind of horrible.
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No lie, especially considering how much she just eviscerated him.
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Although I do remember one comic a while back with Faye grabbing onto Marten telling him he couldn't move across country for a girl all over again. Just don't feel like archive binging to find it.
Milesb:
It could simply be that she felt he needed to sort this one out on his own in order to have an opportunity to grow as a person!
But then her going off on one at him makes no sense.
It's gotta be said, if it was so obvious to her you have to wonder why she didn't mention it to Marten. There's plenty of totally good reasons she might have not told him. But she did also have a vested interest which she clearly knew about...
Here's the link to the comic in question!
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2025
All speculatory though.
Edit: Added link.
NotAwesomeAnymore:
I really think she just expected him to know that though... It's doubtful that he'd move across the country for a lady he'd known for a month. And Dora already told him he had to go to tSB to see what's up.
Tova:
--- Quote from: Harlequin on 16 Jan 2012, 04:56 ---Why is it Marten's responsibility to be the "decent" one here and why is he being ragged on for not being good guy doormat Marten?
I understand the ideal, but again, when do other people need to start taking responsibility for their own emotions instead of just doing and expecting Marten to forgive them for it?
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He's not being ragged on for not being a doormat - he is in fact being ragged on for not taking responsibility for his own emotions, and instead acting with a victim mentality. It's not about being the "decent" one, it's about taking care of himself.
--- Quote from: tjradcliffe on 16 Jan 2012, 05:06 ---And that's a good thing, because the last time he "took a kick at it" he ended up flat on his back and feeling like a fool, alone on the far side of the country without his guitar. Romantic gestures rarely end well.
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This got addressed in the comic, read it again.
--- Quote from: tjradcliffe on 16 Jan 2012, 05:06 ---One of the tricks to a happy life is knowing when to take a risk and when to not. There was simply no upside for Marten in this case outside of the wildest romantic fantasies. Padma pulled away from him, then decided at the last minute she'd like to see him again before she left.
He decided he'd rather feel badly about not catering to her emotional needs than getting his own heart ripped up. Sounds like a sensible decision to me, and one I wish I'd been more apt to make at his age.
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No-one is saying he should have taken a risk - he absolutely was ignoring his own emotional needs by doing what he did.
--- Quote from: AnAverageWriter on 16 Jan 2012, 05:15 ---Because, at least in this strip, it seems all right for every single female character to beat up on Marten with no repercussions at all.
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What repercussions should there be for helping a friend? And please stop trying to turn this into a battle of the sexes yet again.
--- Quote from: Harlequin on 16 Jan 2012, 05:39 ---He just seems to constantly be held to this standard of sainthood which leaves him constantly getting dumped on.
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He doesn't have to be a saint. Be serious.
--- Quote from: Milesb on 16 Jan 2012, 06:37 ---In today's strip I am seeing Faye calling him out for not going to Padma and trying to do... something.. regardless of the fact Padma is leaving - is she saying he should have gone with her? I don't think so. How could he have convinced Padma to stay? She's booked the tickets, she's packed her bags. She's going.
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Of course not.
--- Quote from: Milesb on 16 Jan 2012, 06:37 ---Thirdly, a comment about wasting a life is like: daaang! I know Faye's got Angus now and she's been doing her sculpture and stuff, but daaang man, Marten helped paved the way for her to be able to do that with her life by being a good friend, I would have hoped she'd have tried to do it back.
To be honest I actually think Marten should stand up to Faye. I don't know if anyone here agrees, but I think Faye is actually quite detrimental to Marten's personal development.
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He was standing up to her until he realised that she was in fact right. But by all means, cheer on his right to stubbornly argue against the bleeding obvious. It would clearly be better for his personal development.
--- Quote from: Milesb on 16 Jan 2012, 06:37 ---He only ever ends up in these situations now because his emotions get the better of him.
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At least this I agree with.
--- Quote from: Harlequin on 16 Jan 2012, 07:52 ---1. "Opened up?" How? If anything she closed herself off. She made her choices. Time to live with them. Her feelings and peace of mind aren't Marten's responsibility.
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This has nothing to do with her feelings nor her peace of mind. It's ... hang on I'm copying and pasting this one.
It's not about being the "decent" one, it's about taking care of himself.
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 16 Jan 2012, 12:42 ---Ok, am I right in thinking that since most people completely ignored my post... that no one else finds it odd that Faye has a near psychic understanding of why Padma did what she did, but didn't seem to think it was a good idea to tell Marten until after it was too late?
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I don't think it could have been all that clear to her what really happened until she learned that Padma made that final phone call.
I think that's all I can cope with for now. :roll:
Edit: Maybe just one more thing. >.>
I am kind of amazed that people are saying that Marten is a doormat for not "defending himself against Faye." And yet no-one has said anything about the defeatist and victim mentality that produced a statement like "I've tried before and look how THAT worked out for me." You know, you can cut up Faye's response to that in any way you like, but there is no defending a pathetic statement like that. It's exactly the victimhood mentality Marten needs to lose. Yet in spite of that, everyone is obsessed with Charlie bloody Brown and him being a doormat. I have been trying to ignore the whole sexism debacle, but I do wonder what the reaction would have been if Angus or Sven had told him exactly the same things. Seriously.
Milesb:
--- Quote from: Tova on 16 Jan 2012, 14:00 ---He was standing up to her until he realised that she was in fact right. But by all means, cheer on his right to stubbornly argue against the bleeding obvious. It would clearly be better for his personal development.
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Well, I politely disagree that Faye was in fact right and question her right to berate him if it seemed clear to her but he didn't know, so the second and third sentences are rather moot to me.
I think she browbeat him into submission, and that's not helping the situation at all.
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