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WCDT 2101-2105 (January 16-20, 2012) - A New Hope
NightmarePhoenix:
--- Quote from: Milesb on 16 Jan 2012, 15:01 ---Hmm, I'd like to clarify for my own sake at least that my opinion of Faye's actions is not based upon her gender.
You could literally replace Faye with Steve in the last two strips and I'd think he was being unduly harsh and a pretty lame friend, as I think Faye was. For me at least it's not gender specific.
It doesn't help that Steve is one of the other characters who I feel contributes to Marten's environment of browbeating.
If it was Hanners, Penelope, Tai or Angus handing out this kind of smack down, I would stop and go "Aw jeez! they really must know something about this, or Marten must be acting like a dick!" - because these people do not habitually harass and browbeat Marten. See what I'm getting at?
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So wait, because you feel like Faye 'picks' on Marten, what she said is harsh and makes her a lame friend, but the same words coming from someone else means that Marten has to be acting like a dick? That's a little unfair towards her. Faye has always been sorta a rough person, its how she is and there are several times when she comes out and says "hey, I'm kinda an ass, sorry about that." but she doesn't needlessly browbeat him or harass him past playing around. And messing around with him like that doesn't mean when, for some reason, someone needs to smack him around that if Faye says it, she's just being mean.
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 16 Jan 2012, 12:55 ---Faye may have realized what Padma was thinking, but may have not realized that Marten didn't, which is probably why she was so surprised that Marten reacted the way he did.
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Then she should be kicking herself as well. There was plenty of indication in the previous comics that he DIDN'T realise. If she somehow missed that he didn't know she's as oblivious if not more so than Marten was.
Honestly this comic is the only time in my memory that Jeph has written something that broke me out of the narrative. She just seems to have magical knowledge of what happened, that she didn't previously have (because if she did have it, I really can't understand why she didn't tell Marten).
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Armadillo on 16 Jan 2012, 15:11 ---Oh GREAT, now we're going to get existential.
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I'll go to bed now - I'm sure it'll all be better in the morning (see sig)!
Overkillengine:
Riiiiiiiiight.
In the market for a bridge? I know a guy who knows a guy....
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: Tova on 16 Jan 2012, 14:27 ---OK, let me rephrase that to "if Faye were male." And yes, I realise that you can't just make a change like that and keep the rest of the situation constant, so let me just spell it out - I think that the fierceness of the reaction against what Faye has done is largely the way it is because she is female. There. I've said it. Consequences be damned.
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This would make more sense if it wasn't for the fact that the forum drops on Steve like a brick shithouse every time he does something remotely rude.
Do we really need to pull the sexism card out so often? Its like you want to invalidate everyone's opinions based on assumption rather than the actual argument. "If you don't like what Faye did, you are being sexist." Do you realise how hard it is for people to have discussions in good faith when you are preemptively accusing people of sexism?
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