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WCDT 2101-2105 (January 16-20, 2012) - A New Hope
Harlequin:
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Because, at least in this strip, it seems all right for every single female character to beat up on Marten with no repercussions at all. Of course, the lack of repercussions stems from the fact that Marten seems to never defend himself at all, instead choosing to just simply go along with anything being said about him (as we saw him respond to Faye's "owning" in the last strip).
Marten is a doormat. Poor guy.
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I almost got lost in those links. Looks like a great website resource for anyone studying film :D
In any case, I don't remember every single comic done by Jeph, but I guess I'm feeling like no one goes to Marten and say something like "I understand, you have feelings too and it's ok to have them and to act on them." He just seems to constantly be held to this standard of sainthood which leaves him constantly getting dumped on.
SomeCanadianWeirdo:
--- Quote from: Welu on 16 Jan 2012, 02:40 ---After a mini-think, I guess this comic is a much more harsh version of the talk Dora had with Marten a while ago.
I don't really understand why this incident triggered Faye to full on blast Marten's life
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Perhaps Faye is talking to herself a bit a well. After all she freaked out when Angus said he loved her, and for a bit it almost seemed like she was going to run away from him.
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: Harlequin on 16 Jan 2012, 05:39 ---I almost got lost in those links. Looks like a great website resource for anyone studying film :D
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Oh, you poor, misguided, young person. :-D
NotAwesomeAnymore:
--- Quote ---Marten talks himself up to quitting a job that was depressing him, he arrives to find out that he was fired and has no real options in terms of unemployment or pension. When Dora violated Martens privacy despite him all but falling to his knees to beg that she not do it, he calls her out on it and she insults him, storms out, and then breaks up with him deciding that it's better for her to be insecure and selfish than it is to pursue a mature relationship. When Martens mother browbeat, humiliated, lied to him, etc. when he was at a low point he finally had enough and told her off, only to have her tear viciously into him in front of friends, force HIM to apologize to her and to them, with neither of them standing up for him by the way (real nice friends there). Hell, Marten risked a lot to move across the country and it ended with head games and lonliness. Oh, and when Marten mentioned the idea of pursuing goals to a barber, the barber decided to give him the most creepy example of goal and fulfillment ever
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And the list just gets longer as time goes on!
Milesb:
It's got to be said that Faye is being hypocritical here.
She's had part of this chat before
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2025
In today's strip I am seeing Faye calling him out for not going to Padma and trying to do... something.. regardless of the fact Padma is leaving - is she saying he should have gone with her? I don't think so. How could he have convinced Padma to stay? She's booked the tickets, she's packed her bags. She's going.
But Marten isn't. Why should he have went over and potentially allowed himself to be hurt? It was his decision to minimise his exposure - not the most gallant of choices but certainly within the bounds of reason.
Thirdly, a comment about wasting a life is like: daaang! I know Faye's got Angus now and she's been doing her sculpture and stuff, but daaang man, Marten helped paved the way for her to be able to do that with her life by being a good friend, I would have hoped she'd have tried to do it back.
To be honest I actually think Marten should stand up to Faye. I don't know if anyone here agrees, but I think Faye is actually quite detrimental to Marten's personal development.
There's an example of it in today's comic. As the conversation between Faye and Marten here shows, as long as Marten plays to the back foot Faye just does her usual berating, but in panel 4 when Marten throws some sarcasm in there, gives her some cheek back - she proceeds to shut him down.
I think the point I'm trying to make is that Faye is part of the problem. Marten is pretty lame at making choices, but part of that is experience. He rarely asserts himself and every time he does, there's a huge explosion in response. As I said: experience is part of learning. What has Marten learned? to be a doormat. He only ever ends up in these situations now because his emotions get the better of him.
I'm not blaming Faye for Marten's behaviour, however Faye is part of the process (as all behaviour is contextualised by those around us) and she's not helping.
I genuinely think going with Padma would probably have been better for Marten's mental well being, if rather destructive towards QC as a comic.
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