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Author Topic: WCDT 2121-2125 (13-17 Feburary 2012) QC in SPAAAAAAACE! Week 4  (Read 66136 times)

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Seeing as teleportation hasn't been invented in the QCVerse yet, a huge difference in level of technological advancement between your argument and my object (or scenario) of argumentation is apparent.
And thusly: Wooden desk in space? Not bloody likely. Even in the QCVerse.
Did you see the plane Hanners, Marten and Marigold rode up to the station? They could have had a dozen of those desks in the compartment with them and still have been riding in the lap of luxury. Likewise, the station is large enough to generate artificial gravity through rotation. How did all that metal get into orbit? Cost to transport goods to orbit is nearly negligible in the QCverse.
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Perhaps they just really like wodden desks.
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What we need is an Orbital Elevator!
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What we need is an Orbital Elevator!

Yeah, and Marten, Marigold and Hanners would have gotten on only to find someone had pushed all the buttons. And the elevator music? Everything Sven's ever written, along with a bootleg recording of Hanners singing "Row Row Row Your Boat."
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An orbital elevator would be bad, considering that Spaceship likes to wander a lot.
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Powers.  Melody Powers
No relation to Austin, I hope?



No.

Actually, Melody would probably hand Austin his ass with one hand tied behind her back 

 :-D


And yes, it's not a Squirrel.  It's just the way I was looking at it last night that made me think it was a Squirrel sitting on her head.
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I saw the squirrel at first, until someone referred to a heffalump. When I looked again, I saw the "squirrel" was holding a nut to its mouth. But then it would have had six legs.
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Six hours?  Sounds they had fun together.
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Six hours worth of girl scout cookies and animes...
How big WAS Marigold's bag? o_O
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The Animes probably took that long to go through the entire first season. ;)
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Probably true jwhouk.

I wonder, could this be career ending for CoS if it ever got out?

Or is it a case of 'Don't ask, don't tell'?     :-D   ;)
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Looks like Faye's rubbing off on Marten a bit  :-P
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Marten is a story-topper. Only this time, he failed horribly.  :-D
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Interesting. Panels 3 and 4 must be from a camera.
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You know, as a UK resident I'm slightly baffled at all this cookie discussion, but it's making me hungry!

Also, anyone think Lt. Hardass looks like a slightly older Marten? Not that I'm implying anything by that observation, simply noting that they have similar features.

And I'm glad Marigold isn't in any trouble.... yet.

Girl Scout Cookies >>>>>> the best digestives you could ever think of.

as a north american, i've always found the idea of calling cookies 'digestives' really weird. sounds like something you take to help you poop or something.




Six hours worth of girl scout cookies and animes...
How big WAS Marigold's bag? o_O

presumably he had his own collection to share. and marrigold seems like the type to have a shit load of pirated dvds on her laptop hard drive.
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Six hours worth of girl scout cookies and animes...
How big WAS Marigold's bag? o_O

One doesn't bring *just* one box of Tagalongs.
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Aww... he probably has a cap on how much non-official material he can stream thru the station uplink... (and would not want Station monitoring it to be later used against him...)

BTW Marigold's "explanation face" joins in the gallery of adorable expression.
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The curvature of the walls in today's comic makes no sense.  Hanners already said that the gravity comes from "spinning section".  If gravity is caused by centrifugal force, then "down" should be towards the outer curved wall.
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The curvature of the walls in today's comic makes no sense.  Hanners already said that the gravity comes from "spinning section".  If gravity is caused by centrifugal force, then "down" should be towards the outer curved wall.
If you're refering to panel 1, I kinda agree. In other panel the curvature is accurate (if maybe a bit exaggerated: how FAST does this station spin?).


EDIT: And to follow up on a previous conversation, my picture is self-explanatory, thank you very much.
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Probably true jwhouk.

I wonder, could this be career ending for CoS if it ever got out?

Or is it a case of 'Don't ask, don't tell'?     :-D   ;)

When you're in the service you need to maintain the respect of the troops and your superiors by doing what is expected and doing it well.

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The curvature of the walls in today's comic makes no sense.  Hanners already said that the gravity comes from "spinning section".  If gravity is caused by centrifugal force, then "down" should be towards the outer curved wall.
If you're refering to panel 1, I kinda agree. In other panel the curvature is accurate (if maybe a bit exaggerated: how FAST does this station spin?).

I agree. Admittedly I, too, first felt that in the later panels it is the walls as opposed to ceiling/floor that are curved, but the camera view that we see matches reasonably well with either.

If we stick to the figure for a minimum size station, where the spin won't cause discomfort, then the radius should be about 1km (warm thanks to Akima for the link to an article explaining this). So the length of the rim is about 6k. Meaning that the floor and ceiling will curve approximately 6 degrees per 100 meters. This station does look like it is a bit smaller, because the ceiling is surely bending faster than that. May be people of QCverse can manage on a smaller station? IOW: Toon Physics!
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Maybe the designer just liked curves...
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Maybe the designer just liked curves...

IOW - Bellisario's Maxim. ;)
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Major's office might be in a transverse corridor that has a curve in the local horizontal. It's a visual and design architectural trick to keep you from seeing to the end of the corridor. Paradoxically, some designers think that staves off claustrophobia in a limited space, because you're free to imagine the corridor goes on farther than it does.

Yeah, I know: That'd be a luxury item. It's established this is a luxury space facility -- at least  by IRW standards. This might be a prefab by QCVerse standards.

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Note to self MarBear.

What is more believable?  Digestive issues or watching anime with the head of security? :wink:

And Marten.  That's the kind of stuff you keep to yourself.  Who has the worst digestive problems doesn't award you a bowl-movement trophy.  Though it can give you a Bono. :lol:


And hah.  Anyone else noticing the shared looks of Hanners and Marten lately?  Meshing together more.
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Of course, the last time Marten traveled cross-country, he had just gotten off a major drunk.
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And Marten.  That's the kind of stuff you keep to yourself.  Who has the worst digestive problems doesn't award you a bowl-movement trophy.  Though it can give you a Bono. :lol:
The Super Bowel Movement trophy?  :-D
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What is more believable?  Digestive issues or watching anime with the head of security? :wink:
I'm sure the molecular-level scanning station AI could state where Marigold was if asked. So why lie about it? And, really, what's wrong with the head of security liking Anime and GS Cookies?

What I want to know is what Hanners, Marten and the doctor were doing for six hours that it never occurred to them to ask Station where Marigold went? What was occupying their attention that they didn't even think to ask?
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And Marten.  That's the kind of stuff you keep to yourself.  Who has the worst digestive problems doesn't award you a bowl-movement trophy.  Though it can give you a Bono. :lol:
The Super Bowel Movement trophy?  :-D

I prefer shitting out an international pop star, but that works too!

And yes.  What were Hanners and Marten doing for so long.  Looking for HannersDad iPod I suppose.  Or running from a holo-raptor, acting out the scene in Jurassic Park. :-o
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Trying to track down the millions that disappeared from Hanners's trust fund (Station wasn't being quite honest with the Lt.) Hanners will have to go back to counting things and pick up more hours at the shop ...
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And thusly: Wooden desk in space? Not bloody likely. Even in the QCVerse.
Mass is mass, regardless of the material. And there's no sign of a grain-pattern in the desk, so it might just be brown-painted carbon-fibre or something. At one job I worked, I had a desk made of sheet steel like a filing-cabinet (yes it was an engineering company, why do you ask?) but the manufacturers still felt it was necessary to paint it brown as if it were wood.

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In any hierarchy basically. And Marigold's manga are yaoi, not something manly, military, and semi-historical like Ravages Of Time, for example. And of course Marigold salutes with the wrong hand...

Science and technology may vary, but toilet humour is the same in all universes.
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What Kind of a Space Station IS this?

One that needs more cookies.    - 10 (18.9%)
One that needs more girl scouts.    - 2 (3.8%)
Next up - the local barista brews virtual java!    - 1 (1.9%)
The Major is a former hipster.    - 2 (3.8%)
The Major is an AnthroPC!    - 0 (0%)
The Major knows Pintsize.    - 2 (3.8%)
There really aren't that many Military people on board.    - 8 (15.1%)
The station cook is also in charge of bioscience!    - 5 (9.4%)
Big Reveal: Hanners was born at Disneyland!    - 0 (0%)
Fort Courage has nothing on this place.    - 0 (0%)
Nor does the 4077th.    - 3 (5.7%)
Waffles!    - 4 (7.5%)
Where's Pintsize in all this?    - 4 (7.5%)
Or at least, why no APC's?    - 3 (5.7%)
Monty Python Skit Dead Ahead!    - 6 (11.3%)
I sued Ben Affleck - aw, do I even need a reason?    - 3 (5.7%)

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The curvature of the walls in today's comic makes no sense.  Hanners already said that the gravity comes from "spinning section".  If gravity is caused by centrifugal force, then "down" should be towards the outer curved wall.
If you're refering to panel 1, I kinda agree. In other panel the curvature is accurate (if maybe a bit exaggerated: how FAST does this station spin?).

I agree. Admittedly I, too, first felt that in the later panels it is the walls as opposed to ceiling/floor that are curved, but the camera view that we see matches reasonably well with either.

If we stick to the figure for a minimum size station, where the spin won't cause discomfort, then the radius should be about 1km (warm thanks to Akima for the link to an article explaining this). So the length of the rim is about 6k. Meaning that the floor and ceiling will curve approximately 6 degrees per 100 meters. This station does look like it is a bit smaller, because the ceiling is surely bending faster than that. May be people of QCverse can manage on a smaller station? IOW: Toon Physics!
I was being half-smug on this matter. QC isn't a Sci-Fi universe, and Jeph never pretended to be a Sci-Fi writer. At least not Hard Sci-Fi. I tend to drop links to Atomic Rocket at the drop of a hat, though, This is simply the best hub for informations for anyone who wants to harden their Sci-Fi, and this last sentence sounds kinda dirty now that I think about it.
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The Super Bowel Movement trophy?  :-D

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Oh, and according to the Spincalc, the minimum radius for a comfy 1g environment in a spinning station is about 224 meters. It's easily smaller for weaker gravity.


And I insist: no one should take concern about this to write fiction. Unless they want to.

Or, worded differently: I like your writing anyway, Jeph. Do as you please.
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So roughly half a kilometer in diameter, hm? that doesn't sound like a very big station (that's about 1,640 ft. across...)

EDIT: Okay, here's the comparisons:

Skylab - roughly 6.6 meters in diameter (main compartment area)
Mir - 27.5 meters
ISS - 20 meters

That IS a big station.
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We have comic!

Ouch, that's gotta hurt. Especially if her glasses went flying. She wasn't meant to sleep in a bunk bed, was she?

(And I was a bit worried Jeph was gonna do something there with the two of them... :o )
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When I was 9, I went to camp and had a top bunk.  I never fell off, but I hit my head on the ceiling so many times I'm shocked I didn't get a concussion.  In other words, fuck bunk beds.
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Nice one, Marten.  Don't even bother to extend an arm to catch a falling lady...
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That probably would've broken his arm, there was nothing he could've done, and she seems to be ok.
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Implying that sleeping quarters are at a premium despite the size of the station, thus re-raising the question of why Lt. Potter's quarters are so large.
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We might be deceived by Jeph's attempts at perspective. Also, as a Lieutenant, she might have some pull at having a decent-sized berth.

EDIT: comparing 2119 with 2124, it appears that the  "upper bunk" in Potter's quarters doesn't have the same built-in ladder that the "guest quarters" has. It's also possible that her "quarters" are part of a larger semi-private "dormitory-style" sleeping quarters (imagine another set of bunks on the common wall next, and the "AIM HIGH" poster is on the wall of an interior hallway to the second  set of bunk beds).

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Her quarters had bunk beds, so she shares them, and she is an officer after all.  It probably doubles as her office?
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