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WCDT: 2151-55 (26-30 Mar 2012) QC IN SPAAAAAACE... Week TEN!?!

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Carl-E:
Age difference, explained by two of the most brilliant minds of the last century. 

(starting at about 3:06, if you don't want to listen to the whole thing)

Is it cold in here?:
All known examples of intelligence can only reach their potential by bootstrapping through a childhood phase. The creators of AIs would certainly have wanted to build an adult one, but maybe it's fundamentally impossible.

Jeph's newspost from 1996 makes it sound like they grow up in VR.

Maybe some of them malfunction during the growing-up process and never develop executive function? Maybe Marten was able to afford Pintsize because he was discounted for being defective.

Dr. ROFLPWN:

--- Quote from: StevenC on 01 Apr 2012, 19:14 ---
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 01 Apr 2012, 17:07 ---
--- Quote from: StevenC on 01 Apr 2012, 15:41 ---He didn't help raise Hanners. He was her friend.

--- End quote ---

A friend who was, for all practical purposes, an adult, while she was a child.  When such friends have parental approval, they're usually said to have "helped to raise." (When they don't, they're usually said to have "gone to prison.")


--- Quote from: StevenC on 01 Apr 2012, 15:41 ---And to your link: it says OPINION right there. The guy writing it thinks that.

--- End quote ---

The "guy writing it"?!  You mean the AMA ethics group?!  :psyduck:

Yeah, see where this line of thinking gets you the next time you hear a court "opinion."

--- End quote ---

Seriously, what the HELL are you even talking about. Hanners is not a little kid with some pedophile AI trying to rape her. She is an adult woman and Station is whatever the hell an AI can be called. They can both give consent and make their own decisions.

--- End quote ---

Then think of it this way: Hanners is a college student on the cusp of graduation, Station is the professor who helped her get through a rough four years.

Now said professor is making a booty call on that student.

Does that seem right to you.

Near Lurker and others are extremely correct: the power dynamic of therapist/counselor/etc. to the patient isn't something that goes away. Ever. Station will always be in a position that makes an intimate relationship with Hannelore absolutely creepifyin' on account of...to use the professor example again, that's a professor who is always going to be your professor. And now they want to have sex with you.

DSL:
I don't discount what you say, ROFL, about the (former)teacher-student dynamic, but Hanners seems to be the "adult" of the two in the one-on-one interactions between herself and Station: She doesn't hesitate to call him on what she considers a juvenile and cruel joke, she reassures him he can call her anytime and she seems almost older-sisterishly delighted that he has a "date" (even if she doesn't seem to know it's apparently her). He, meanwhile, behaves toward her as a nervous (younger) suitor.
Nice change, IMO, from her usual situation Earthside, where she's treated by the others as "one of the kids."
It's almost like this trip to orbit was her "coming out party." It's up to Jeph where this goes, but it wouldn't be unrealistic to the future story to have the other Earthside cast members noticing that Marten treats Hanners a little differently going forward. A little more respectfully, more as an equal.

jwhouk:
Unfortunately, I'm all too familiar with cases of professors and students not only hooking up but actually getting married at some point. It happens, especially when there isn't as much of a difference between ages of prof and student (within 5 years).

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