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Neko_Ali:
The disgust over the statement is by putting "women" in quotations because you were including a transgender women there. Unless you were referring to Bond himself dressed up as a woman in that scene (and I don't remember any movies where he did that), the implication is that because there was a trans woman there, you had to put "women" in quotes because she wasn't a real woman. That is the kind of mis-transist crap we have to deal with constantly. "Oh, you are a woman, but not a REAL woman because you weren't born that way." I know it shouldn't have to be said, but trans people are a very much mistreated, demonized and (often violently) oppressed group. This makes us both easy prey to people who hate us, easy for even good intentioned people to say highly insulting things because  it's something everyone is used to doing (insulting and minimizing trans people) and makes us often internalize that hatred leading to depression and worse. Casual, even unintended insults like "women" are just the tip of an iceberg that makes the one which sank the Titanic look like a dinky, half melted ice cube.

The problem with cisgender people playing trans people in media is that there are a lot of trans actors and actresses who are routinely looked over for one reason or another. Then you have a role which is literally perfect for them, and they still get looked over often because they don't fit the idea of what the casting director thinks of for the role of a trans person. Which is usually someone who fits the biological birth sex of the character to show how they don't really look the part. Or someone who fits the stereotypical appearance post-transition so that you wouldn't guess they were trans without being told. Which completely cuts out the middle ground where most of us trans people fit. And then there is the casual insult that people feel a trans person couldn't accurately portray a trans character. That's like taking a role for a black character, giving it to a white actor in blackface and saying "Well, I just didn't think a black person could accurately play a black character."

jwhouk:
Thing is, no one knew she was trans* when she took the role. The producers just needed a bunch of women to play "poolside extras" for the scene.

Neko_Ali:
Why would that matter in any way though? I mean I'm assuming she wasn't cast as 'transgender pool girl'. And it doesn't at all affect or address the point that calling her a "woman", even indirectly, is very insulting....

Carl-E:

--- Quote from: Valdís on 12 May 2013, 05:48 ---
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 12 May 2013, 00:26 ---TBH I like the conceit that Jeph didn't even know where Claire's character was going to wind up
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I don't buy that. There are too many foreshadowing moments throughout her earlier appearances. [1][2][3]

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Interesting.  Those certainly can be read as foreshadowing - however, having three little brothers, the third one can easily just be a sibling issue.  If I remember correctly, the second one was before Claire was even introduced (which comic was that from?).  Foreshadowing, but of her being trans?  Maybe, but hard to say for certain.  Could easily just be the usual sibling stuff - no one wants to be known for their siblings instead of on their own terms (no matter how bad those terms may be). 

And seriously, how many of us haven't felt the way the first one intimates at some point or another?  That's not a trans* issue, it's human. 

Neko_Ali:
I tend to agree... While knowing what we know now, those scenes could have been foreshadowing... but it is very subtle. They could just have easily referred to something other than Claire being trans. So a bit of good writing if they are foreshadowing. There, but not beating you over the head with it.

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