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cesium133:

--- Quote from: Valdís on 12 May 2013, 11:45 ---
I also don't know why you said "Bigendered Clinton". The early Claire-things on his Tumblr didn't say a thing about Clinton. [1][2]

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I'm pretty sure he was referring to this drawing that Jeph made with both a male and female version of Clinton, before he started posting drawings of Claire.

Latias:

--- Quote from: jwhouk on 12 May 2013, 05:27 ---As for the commentary: I didn't say the characters were necessarily PC in this fake "Behind The Scenes" thing. Remember: I made it where Dora and Sven are husband and wife, not brother and sister.

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The fact that you won't own up to the fact that what you said was wrong and apologise says a lot about you. You have no problem spewing hatred and bigotry that hurts other people. You don't care that you're saying things that are extremely offensive, that the people you're degrading have feelings. Treating people as people isn't "political correctness". It's "not being a huge fucking douchebag".

You couldn't care less that what you've said is hurtful. Instead of apologising, you make excuses to justify your hurtful actions. You don't care about the people you've hurt with your words. You only care what people think of you, hence trying to excuse what you're doing. Even when you've hurt other people, you keep the focus on yourself rather than them.

Valdís:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 12 May 2013, 12:18 ---if Imaginary Hannelore Actress were a member here she would have gotten an admonishment via PM at the very least
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Today's lesson: If you want to say insulting things, make sure it's in the third person? :wink:


--- Quote from: cesium133 on 12 May 2013, 12:27 ---I'm pretty sure he was referring to this drawing that Jeph made with both a male and female version of Clinton, before he started posting drawings of Claire.
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Ah, so something unrelated to Claire from back in 2011, apparently as a general impulse he has with his characters. Would be neat to see other examples of drawings he's made like that uploaded.

Neko_Ali:
Thank you, Cold. I would like to add that none of my statements were meant to be rude or insulting to anyone.  I was trying to point out that even among allies and in safe spaces, sometimes phrases or words can be used that are unintentionally insulting and hurtful. Often time the user doesn't even realize it... Culture for a long time has been very dismissive of anyone who isn't a white heterosexual male of appropriate religious background. Not that insults don't exists for people who fit into those categories as well. But in many cases, insulting phrases have become so ingrained into culture and language towards women, people of color, LGBT folk and what have you that people can use them without even realizing they are being offensive. I like to gently point those things out... largely I admit because I used to be one of those 'white heterosexual males of appropriate religious background', and when I started stripping away the layers of privilege I realized how deep and disgusting it was...

Is it cold in here?:
Jeph's old Livejournal account has some sketches as well.


--- Quote from: what I wish people had said ---Hey, jwhouk, do you have any idea how offensive Imaginary Hannelore Actress was?

Was she speaking for you? Remember, I've heard lots of people just like that in real life, I don't know you, and nothing in my life justifies giving a stranger the benefit of the doubt.

Even if she wasn't speaking for you, what on earth was the point of including her?!

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