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WCDT: 2201-2205 (4-8 June 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
cesariojpn:
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--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 09 Jun 2012, 05:03 ---The heavyset black girl is Monique...
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Whatever her name is, I don't like her character design at all. Oof.
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I don't like it either, but hey, different strokes for different folks. No harm, no foul.
Omega Entity:
--- Quote from: helloandgoodbye on 09 Jun 2012, 13:18 ---
--- Quote from: Omega Entity on 09 Jun 2012, 07:46 ---
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 09 Jun 2012, 05:03 ---The heavyset black girl is Monique...
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The facial structure isn't right for her to be black, I don't think - Jeph's (usually) pretty dang good at using common traits to help the viewer identify at least a general idea of what race someone is, instead of relying on the ambiguous nature of skin tone. We've already had a couple of Indian girls that have been notable characters (for a while, at least), so maybe he's going for a third?
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http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=972
...Maybe Jeph doesn't know how to draw black people? :/
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Sorflakne:
--- Quote ---Hey guys, I had hoped that sort of thing was getting left behind in the 20th century or earlier; please think before you type.
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--- Quote ---"What would have been your reaction if a man had spoken the same words, and if you see a difference, why?".
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Exact same words. *shrug*
Ok, so I was a tad hasty in my word choice, but the point is, she just automatically assumed she was being hazed because Marten's stammering all over the place and not really going into the process of working in a library. So why exactly would she assume she was being hazed rather than, I don't know, ask Marten if he was just nervous for whatever reason or if he was also a recent hire? She didn't bother to get info, she just jumped to conclusions and thought the worst (and in fairness, I did too).
My original statement had nothing to do with hating on women, so knock that crap off. I would've said the exact same thing had it been a heterosexual Anglo-Saxon male. Misguided as the words were, the post would've been made without this current foresight.
Omega Entity:
I see it less of her being a bitch, and more perhaps of it being a defense mechanism. She's pretty mousey-looking, and her posture was very closed for the most part - it could very well be that she was teased or harassed a lot in her life, and as such has just gotten to the point where rather than being a victim, she goes on the offensive instead. I myself can be a bit oversensitive, if I feel like something may be being said/done to me maliciously, and without any reason for it; it's one reason why I find a lot of those practical joke shows to be pretty mean-spirited.
Tellusora:
I, for one, don't see anything wrong with what Ginger said. She reacted defensively, to be sure, but also assertively and politely. She didn't shriek like a banshee and beat Marten over the head with a broom. The only part you can see as being too intense is her 'WHAT?!', which I see as incredulity/shock rather than actual anger. 'and I do not appreciate it' strikes me as remarkably restrained and polite. Is it the emphatic use of capitalisation that some people are perceiving as 'bitchy'? Or is it her too-close close-up in panel 2?
For that matter, I think it's quite a sad state of affairs when your first reaction to an opinionated woman being assertive is to brand her a 'bitch'. I think we're all perfectly capable of describing someone's behaviour far more accurately (e.g: 'defensive, hostile, aggressive', what have you) without having to resort to gendered slurs.
Maybe some of us are forgetting that we're being sympathetic to Marten because we know him and his intentions, without considering the viewpoint of the girls. If some random 'librarian' tried to instruct me with:
"This is the front desk"
"Here we have a library computer"
"This is a bookshelf!"
You can bet I'd assume he/she was being condescending, and it wouldn't be too far of a leap to assume something like hazing was going on. Something's definitely off. Did Ginger leap to a conclusion? Yes. Would it be fair to expect her to give Marten the benefit of the doubt and assume that Marten merely doesn't know what he's doing? Not really, with the kind of bull he's (unintentionally) pulling.
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