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WCDT: 2226-2230 (9-13 July 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread (SDCC Edition 1)

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Goscar:
I think Tai didn't mean to undermine her issues but  to put them in perspective that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, has at least one personal demon/issue they have and hers could be a lot worse.

But after that I must say I am rather disgusted by Tai. Not the fact she is gunning for Dora now but the fact that she was gunning for her while she was still with Marten. And instead of giving Dora some time and space to recover after the break up, which is what she is trying to do, she is going on the offense (and damn what a good one to!).

Me just my 2 cents!

Platypodes:
To everyone talking about Tai's promiscuity as a problem, remember that Tai has always expressed interest in a monogamous relationship, but hasn't found one and has gotten caught up in the poly scene at her school.

She started out here http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=728 wanting to be exclusive with Bailey, and after Bailey rejected her, she got into a three-way while drunk and disappointed: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=765

Later she expresses her dissatisfaction and her desire to "settle down with one person" in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1595 and http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1596

It doesn't seem fair to say that just because Tai has had casual sex and threesomes, she wouldn't be a good partner in a long-term monogamous relationship.  Why couldn't she be capable of both?  (EDIT: Also, it just occurred to me that I don't know if we can be sure Tai has actually had all that much casual or group sex.  Ashley and Serena were her first threesome, and has she ever described any other hookups?)

I think part of Tai's problem with finding the sort of relationship she wants lies in her approach--getting drunk and taking off her pants, rushing into hookups, etc.  This M.O. is more likely to attract party girls and casual partners. (Note: I'm not saying that all non-monogamous folks are party girls and casual partners, but I think most of Tai's partners have been).

Here, Tai tries a different approach.  She doesn't move in for a makeout.  She expresses her feelings in a way that's caring, romantic, and not overtly sexual.  She demonstrates that she cares about Dora as more than just a potential hookup, and she shows Dora some of what she has to offer as a more-than-just-sexual partner--kindness, sensitivity, and support.

I don't see Tai's pep talk as discouraging Dora from going to therapy.  Tai isn't telling Dora "you're perfect, stop trying to improve."  She's telling Dora to stop beating up on herself.

One of Dora's issues is insecurity.  She feels inadequate and inferior.  Remember how she obsessed about the idea that Marten only went out with her as a second-best because he couldn't have Faye?  Dora's self esteem could use a boost.  Sitting around saying "I'm such a horrible mess because I have these issues" doesn't help you work on those issues, it gets in the way.  If Dora learns to say, "I have some shit to work out, but I'm a strong and capable and awesome person," that will give her more confidence to face her issues and deal with them. 

Tai is showing a new level of maturity here, and I think she totally rocked in how she handled this.

sitnspin:
I agree completely with Platypodes' post.

As someone who has had serious psychological issues and been through years of therapy, I can say that when you are going through such issues it gets really easy to see yourself as nothing more than your issues. You ignore any positive qualities about yourself and only see the mess. Sometimes you need someone to cut through all your self-deprecation and remind you that there is more to you than the mess. Not to dismiss your problems and the work you need to do, but simply to remind you that there are parts of you that are pretty kick ass too.

That is what Tai did here.

tut21:
Some of the commenters here are forgetting that we readers know more about each character's issues than the characters themselves. We're privy to conversations on both sides; for example we witnessed Marten and Dora's arguments and the aftermath with other friends.

Tai doesn't have all of that info and she's just being honest and sincere about her feelings for Dora. Feelings that she's had for a while.

Dora didn't exactly break it off with Marten just a day or two ago either. I'd guess that a few months have passed since then.

So that's why Tai doesn't seem manipulative at all to me. Good for her, even if the relationship never happens.

Somebody:

--- Quote from: someone on 10 Jul 2012, 11:17 ---I know when my daughter goes off to college in four years, I hope she gets to be friends with the dorm slut who spends all day backing with a robot then getting drunk on expensive wine and hitting on her former boyfriend's ex. That is classic. Such neeto hipster cool.
--- End quote ---
I'm going to skip the broader problems with this post, and even the borderline-impersonatory username, and jump straight to the part where you seem to think Marten and Tai used to be a couple (as well as Marten & Dora).

Like the girl said, she has the right parts but a totally different instruction manual.

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