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Barmymoo:

--- Quote from: jwhouk on 08 Aug 2012, 16:40 ---I suspect that may be something called "Wrestling".

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Possibly, but I think we had a wrestling icon as well.

Thanks for the explanation of the horse events, OE, I think eventing was probably the water one.

I'm now looking forwards to the Paralympics, where my friend Hannah will be winning gold in the wheelchair sprints (if she doesn't, I'll be very surprised - she is the world record holder).

The Seldom Killer:

--- Quote from: pwhodges on 14 Aug 2012, 04:38 ---Yorkshire came twelfth overall.

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As a resident of one of the four separate counties of the region of Yorkshire I predict that it will be a least four years before Yorkshirefolk shut up about this fact. You can tell a Yorkshireman, but you can't tell him much as the the saying goes.


--- Quote from: pwhodges on 09 Aug 2012, 14:25 ---Women's boxing I find as distasteful as I find all boxing.

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I've heard this sentiment expressed in various guises and find it quite odd as it seems reserved only for boxing where as Wrestling, Judo, Taekwondo are about fighting and inflicting damage on others. Similarly fencing is borne of the ability to prove oneself capable of hurting others.

pwhodges:
You could say that one of the main functions of sport is to provide a means of competition by proxy.  The ball goes in the net; the finishing line is crossed first.  Sometimes the result is sufficiently mechanised to be unambiguous, sometimes the judgement of a specialist is required (e.g. diving, dressage).  Boxing however, and the other activities you listed, do without the proxy element, and require direct contact with the potential of injury.  In some cases, the contact is sufficiently rarefied and protected against that actual injury is unlikely (fencing, perhaps), but boxing and wrestling, and other sports that allow a knockout in particular, still have the significant possibility of real injury - for no purpose other than to say that you have won by virtue of causing that injury.  To my mind this is simply not civilised.

JayJay:
it may not be civilised, but i think that having violent sports is something, lets say, necessary.
I really think that LOTS of people really enjoy watching other people suffer, and it's been happening for a long long time, take the gladiators for an example, the government used to host fights to the death to the amusement of the people.
My point being, if we do not have violent sports, there will soon be lots of underground ilegal fighting, and to me it's a lot more civilised to have some control of the fights and offer some protection and have assistance ready for the fighters

Lines:
Schadenfreude!

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