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Silentbanksy:
USA Vs  North Korea tomorrow, anyone else hoping for a fight?  :evil:

smack that isaiah:

--- Quote from: Skaltura on 30 Jul 2012, 06:49 ---I really liked the men's sabre fighting yesterday. While épée and foil can be a bit slow and cautious, Sabre is all about ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!. Really cool.

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I'm the exact opposite, I think.  I find sabre boring cause of the constant attack! mentality.  Right off the go both fencers advance lunge.  simultaneous, no points.  after two or three of those one guy decides to take a half step, parry and riposte.  he gets the point.  then back to the simultaneous. 

That being said, the semis & finals yesterday were quite interesting 'cause they didn't follow the simple pattern I outlined above (the rounds of 64 thru quarterfinals, however...).  team sabre can also be interesting 'cause of the added strategy from fencing as a part of the whole team

I also tend to find epee boring to watch 'cause it's too passive when you're not in the last minute of the match.  Foil is perfect for me--strategic play without being all offense or all defense (it's also what I fence).

Today in women's individual epee there was a HUGE travesty in the semifinals (click to show/hide)where Shin from Korea was robbed of a chance at gold.  In overtime, Shin with priority, there is one second left on the clock, and after 3 simul-touches her opponent from Germany is encroaching on the en garde distance.  The director kept calling for distance, but when Germany wouldn't give it, the director just started the bout instead of giving her a yellow card (total BS right there, the director needs to have control of the strip, which she did not).  Then, the timekeeper messes everything up and the final milliseconds tick down while the fencers are not fencing.  The judge adds one FULL second back to the clock, doesn't force Germany to take proper en garde distance (in those pics Germany is a good 5 feet too close for a proper en garde distance), and on "allez" she fleches for the final touch.  I hope that director and timekeeper get properly punished for their failings on the strip today.

jwhouk:
That wasn't a travesty, it was over-the-top stupidity.

(click to show/hide)Shin should get a silver or bronze medal from the LOGOC just out of pure shame that she didn't get a chance to compete for the Gold.

Skaltura:
I didn't watch that match, only getting a glimpse of the aftermath (discussions between all the officials), but I've to admit I felt really bad for the Korean lady when she started crying, athletes shouldn't be punished for mistakes made by officials and and judges. It is worth noting though that the German media seems in no way inclined to question the decision because Heidemann won the first medal for her country, up until then some strongly worded articles about the failures of athletes and no medals won appeared, quite typically German I have to say.

Additionally there were MANY more irregularities that day, Japan only won their silver medal in (M) Gymnastics through protesting their score, bumping Ukraine to ungrateful fourth. The judging at the females weightlifting (53 kg and 58 kg) seemed completely arbitrary, sometimes failing attempts for rotating barbells, sometimes not. It's a bit disappointing actually. Makes one long for the competitions where a solid metric (speed/distance) can be applied without having to rely on seemingly all too fallible judges.

Patrick:

--- Quote from: Skaltura on 31 Jul 2012, 07:03 ---quite typically German I have to say.

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Uhhh, wat

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