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WCDT: 2246-2250 (August 6-10 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Madmartigan:
--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 08 Aug 2012, 14:41 ---Hell, it's Faye's entire personality. God help her kids. *shudder*
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Faye with kids is the scariest possible thing that could happen other than Pintsize replicating minimes of himself.
sitnspin:
Some people say Marten is too passive. I say some people here are way too sensitive. Do you people really get your feelings hurt that easily? Hell, I suffer from chronic depression and even I don't get butt hurt by these things.
I don't get the whole "friends can't date exes" thing. Why the hell not? Especially in situations where the break up was mutual and both parties are still friends. Marten and Dora dated, then they broke up. They weren't married, she wasn't "the love of his life," and they both agreed that ending it was the right thing to do. Marten was relieved when it was over. He has had time to process it and let it go. He's already dated someone else. Are you people really so selfish that you can't comprehend someone legitimately being happy for his friends cos they found each something with other? Some people are actually glad when their friends find happiness. It isn't as though they are finding it at his expense, he has no romantic interest in either of them so he is not losing anything by them being together.
Maybe it's cos I originally come from an area where the pool of available partners was pretty small. If we were not allowed to date the exes of people we knew, no one would ever have been able to date more than one person.
Madmartigan:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 08 Aug 2012, 18:31 ---Some people say Marten is too passive. I say some people here are way too sensitive. Do you people really get your feelings hurt that easily? Hell, I suffer from chronic depression and even I don't get butt hurt by these things.
I don't get the whole "friends can't date exes" thing. Why the hell not? Especially in situations where the break up was mutual and both parties are still friends. Marten and Dora dated, then they broke up. They weren't married, she wasn't "the love of his life," and they both agreed that ending it was the right thing to do. Marten was relieved when it was over. He has had time to process it and let it go. He's already dated someone else. Are you people really so selfish that you can't comprehend someone legitimately being happy for his friends cos they found each something with other? Some people are actually glad when their friends find happiness. It isn't as though they are finding it at his expense, he has no romantic interest in either of them so he is not losing anything by them being together.
Maybe it's cos I originally come from an area where the pool of available partners was pretty small. If we were not allowed to date the exes of people we knew, no one would ever have been able to date more than one person.
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Err, only the crazies are bothered by Marten not reacting to Tai and Dora dating in a jealous way. Me, yea, I wish it had worked out. It didn't. We sane people know Marten is way over Dora now, from his Padma fling to "trying" and failing massively to get on the Lt. If anything, he was too passive while dating Dora when Tai was but trying to mount Dora and making it none too obvious. Post Dora, don't think he gives a shit anymore. Things ended too badly for him to really care romantically for her anymore.
But there really is no debate that Marten is an incredibly passive beast. It's his one major flaw, particularly in his relationships.
Tova:
Undeniably true.
The problem there, though, is that it has become like the old saying that "No one ever got fired for buying IBM." Except in this case, no-one ever got fired for blaming something on Marten's passivity.
So the argument frequently goes (explicitly or implicitly) something like this:
"So-and-so is really screwing Marten around."
"Not really. Marten is fine with it."
"That's only because he's so passive."
Undeniable, right? We all know he's passive.
Well, because he is passive, it can be hard to distinguish between Marten suppressing his feeling on the one hand, and him genuinely not being offended on the other. And we can only use our own feelings on the matter to determine the situation one way or another. Hence the disagreement on the forums.
So while I acknowledge that the people blaming Marten's passivity may sometimes have a point, it's important to remember that just pointing out that Marten is passive doesn't prove anything one way or another. It just leaves the door open to varying interpretations.
To get back to the current situation, I don't think Marten is being passive - he's being quite straightforward in his approval of Tai and Dora's new relationship. I will continue to take him at his word until I see some evidence to the contrary.
sitnspin:
--- Quote from: Madmartigan on 08 Aug 2012, 18:59 --- If anything, he was too passive while dating Dora when Tai was but trying to mount Dora and making it none too obvious.
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Was this being passive or just secure enough in the relationship to not be bothered by it? He didn't feel threatened by Tai's crush on Dora. Is a lack of insecurity now considered passivity?
--- Quote from: Madmartigan on 08 Aug 2012, 18:59 ---But there really is no debate that Marten is an incredibly passive beast. It's his one major flaw, particularly in his relationships.
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He is easy going. How is this a character flaw?
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