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WCDT: 2256-60 (20-24 August 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread

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Madmartigan:

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--- Quote from: Black Sword on 23 Aug 2012, 06:51 ---Am I the only one really not getting into this arc? Entry into it felt really contrived and forced, and I'm not sure I really want to spend that much time on a pair I've never been greatly interested in the first place.

I'm not looking forward to hundreds of strips and years of this.

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--- Quote from: ukrayf on 23 Aug 2012, 06:54 ---Just let Jeph work out the kinks and figure out the dynamic more, it'll feel less awkward eventually.

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Word.   (do people still say that?)

Marten-Dora felt awkward at the beginning.  Nothing was more awkward than Steve-Cosette.  Or Steve-Ellen.  Or Steve-Meena.  Hell, all of Steve's pairings felt forced.  But hell if Steve-Cosette isn't true to a half dozen couples I've known over the years! 

Really, the most "organic" pairing I've seen in here is Angus-Faye (Sorry, I still like "Fayngus"). 

We're human.  We are awkward.  We're also the only creatures self-conscious enough to care about awkwardness!

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As another said though, it is awkward to the point of being forced a bit.  As evidenced by some of the drama.  Agreed on "Fayngus" though.  Definitely the healthiest looking and most "organic" pairing yet.

Dora/Marten wasn't awkward to me.  They/Dora just had that Faye issue in the background. Steve.  Oh man.  Steve is just an entirely different beast in this comic.

techkid:

--- Quote from: ukrayf on 23 Aug 2012, 06:54 ---Just let Jeph work out the kinks and figure out the dynamic more, it'll feel less awkward eventually.
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This is awkward on the "teenage-crush-first-date awkward" level of the scale. Yeah, Dora could have been a little more careful with her words... but who hasn't proverbially stuck their foot so far in their mouth that they're able to kick themselves in the stomach for being so stupid?

Next strip is all about the damage control, for sure.


--- Quote from: Madmartigan on 23 Aug 2012, 07:15 ---As another said though, it is awkward to the point of being forced a bit.  As evidenced by some of the drama.  Agreed on "Fayngus" though.  Definitely the healthiest looking and most "organic" pairing yet.

Dora/Marten wasn't awkward to me.  They/Dora just had that Faye issue in the background. Steve.  Oh man.  Steve is just an entirely different beast in this comic.
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The awkwardness in this situation is probably based on how little they know about each other. Tai was infatuated by Dora, because of her seemingly successful life, and her solid character. Dora accepted, based on how upfront and honest Tai was about her feelings. But was it ever established, how much do they know about each other? And how much did they really interact with each other beforehand? Not a great deal on both counts, I think.

Marten and Dora happened because their interactions (particularly after "The Talk") brought them closer and closer together. They basically knew each other inside and out, and when the question of Faye was no longer a question... well, the opportunity was there for them to learn about each other from the outside in (no matter how serious a discussion on relationships, there's always time for a good (or probably bad, in this case) sex joke).

Angus and Faye. How many relationships have started out like that, in any case? Go to a coffee shop, bar, grocery store, restaurant or other eatery... anywhere where one is providing service to another, and you'll see people interacting in a similar way. They become regulars, share quips and conversations, and it ends up like they've known each other their entire lives. Worse case scenario? One or both is married or in a relationship (although that doesn't stop some people...).

This is about as "natural" as it gets these days. The customer ends up being a regular, they see that particular cashier/barista/waitress/barmaid (or barman) because they're their favourite, and off it goes from there.

DSL:
Well, I've seen (and been in) real-life relationships of all kinds (romantic, work, social) that felt and/or were "forced." So there's nothing unrealistic about Dora and Tai in that regard.

The closest thing to a vision Jeph's articulated for this comic is "People trying to get along." Trying means not always succeeding. Here, we're going to see some of that. Whether we think the pairing can work, or is one we like, is nowhere near the point. But this will have repercussions, good and bad, major and minor, within the various social sets and subsets depicted in QCVerse, and how Jeph chooses to depict that and how well he writes it, are what interests me.

Boxilar:
If anything kills this relationship, it'll be a repeat of what happened between Marten and Dora. Awkward moments like this are to expected at the beginning of a courtship. The real test will be when Tai checks out another girl or does one of the other things that set Dora off when she and Marten were a couple. And Marten was/is a lot more easygoing than Tai. Our head librarians assistant may not put up with as much as our passive/aggressive would be guitarist did. I guess it really depends on wether Dora has her shit sorted or not.

Angry eating Tai is cute as hell, though.

Sidhekin:

--- Quote from: jwhouk on 23 Aug 2012, 06:26 ---Hint: "Eyes up here" will never likely be uttered by Tai.

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Now I'm imagining Tai uttering "eyes down here!"

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