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Dora,Tai, and Therapy
mikeybones:
Glad to see there's talk on this,was worried no one else found it...bothersome? I'll add more when I'm not on a phone. Just one quick addition to the discussion. Is Jeph just out to screw over Marten? Faye couldn't be with him because she had issues to work out. Faye works those issues out and ends up with Angus. Dora leaves Marten because of Past relationship issues, and before she resolves those issues,she begins dating again. These women ten down or leave him under the guise that if not for their own problems a relationship can exist, yet when the problem is fixed in Faye's case,she goes to someone else. In Dora's case she doesn't even bother to fix it and goes to some one else. I realize there were other issues in both cases but the underlying issues of the women in both situations played a huge role
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: mikeybones on 22 Aug 2012, 13:34 --- Is Jeph just out to screw over Marten?
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Jeph listed three things that will never appear in the comic: two of the old female bit characters, and happiness for Marten.
Dora is a balance of fear and desire. Fear won with Jim, although by 1963 she was already talking about trying to make it work anyway. It's within the plausible range of human fluctuation for desire to be surging ahead now. The apparent absence of fear is indeed troublesome.
It would be really, really bad if Dora is pursuing this out of curiosity. Curious people should pair up with each other and not with someone as serious as Tai seems to be.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: mikeybones on 22 Aug 2012, 13:34 ---...Faye couldn't be with him because she had issues to work out. Faye works those issues out and ends up with Angus. Dora leaves Marten because of Past relationship issues, and before she resolves those issues,she begins dating again.
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And don't forget Padma and the crossed-signal relationship. She had a different issue - falling for him when she also felt she needed to leave - and couldn't reconcile it, and he was clueless about any of it thanks to a lack of communication (on both sides).
Tova:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 22 Aug 2012, 18:45 ---
--- Quote from: mikeybones on 22 Aug 2012, 13:34 ---...Faye couldn't be with him because she had issues to work out. Faye works those issues out and ends up with Angus. Dora leaves Marten because of Past relationship issues, and before she resolves those issues,she begins dating again.
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And don't forget Padma and the crossed-signal relationship. She had a different issue - falling for him when she also felt she needed to leave - and couldn't reconcile it, and he was clueless about any of it thanks to a lack of communication (on both sides).
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And I would still argue that Marten's inability to deal directly with the issues arising out of Dora's insecurities until it burst out of him in bitter recriminations was a factor in their split. Maybe with an older and wiser head he might have been able to help Dora work through those issues.
Madmartigan:
--- Quote from: mikeybones on 22 Aug 2012, 13:34 ---Glad to see there's talk on this,was worried no one else found it...bothersome? I'll add more when I'm not on a phone. Just one quick addition to the discussion. Is Jeph just out to screw over Marten? Faye couldn't be with him because she had issues to work out. Faye works those issues out and ends up with Angus. Dora leaves Marten because of Past relationship issues, and before she resolves those issues,she begins dating again. These women ten down or leave him under the guise that if not for their own problems a relationship can exist, yet when the problem is fixed in Faye's case,she goes to someone else. In Dora's case she doesn't even bother to fix it and goes to some one else. I realize there were other issues in both cases but the underlying issues of the women in both situations played a huge role
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Pretty much how I see it.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 22 Aug 2012, 13:47 ---
--- Quote from: mikeybones on 22 Aug 2012, 13:34 --- Is Jeph just out to screw over Marten?
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Jeph listed three things that will never appear in the comic: two of the old female bit characters, and happiness for Marten.
Dora is a balance of fear and desire. Fear won with Jim, although by 1963 she was already talking about trying to make it work anyway. It's within the plausible range of human fluctuation for desire to be surging ahead now. The apparent absence of fear is indeed troublesome.
It would be really, really bad if Dora is pursuing this out of curiosity. Curious people should pair up with each other and not with someone as serious as Tai seems to be.
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Really? When did he list that? Marten never finding happiness seems incredibly depressing. :psyduck:
--- Quote from: SJCrew on 22 Aug 2012, 08:40 ---I do agree that the timing on this development is rather odd, but as it was pointed out before, Dora's insecurity issues stemmed mostly from men. Tai being female may give her a different perspective that women are not as prone to disloyalty, even if it is irrational. If there's one good thing coming out of this, there's the possibility that Dora's soulmate just wasn't meant to be male and she still has a chance at happiness without years of therapy and abstinence.
I'm not going to set predictions on where this will go just yet, at least not until we hear what her therapist has to say.
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That'd be a very shallow rational. That's more like an excuse of well, men hurt me so screw men, I'll just try women instead. Not out of any particular attraction to women, but some irrational logic that women won't hurt her. I don't think I could ever get behind that kind of relationship.
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