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Marten's development

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Tova:
Lots of people don't have skills in assertiveness.
There's a gulf between that and being a "spineless jellyfish", though.

Boxilar:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 24 Aug 2012, 13:23 ---Marten has a lot to overcome to learn to be assertive. Consider his mother's last visit.

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Fair enough. But consider, this was the beginning of Marten's post breakup development. His mother showed up two days after the breakup  and the day after he got blitzed out of his skull. That was probably one of the lowest points in his life. Certainly that we've witnessed.

He HAS improved since then. Like most folks, he likely has the huge conditioned response most of us have to obey our parents. I agree that it is something he needs to work on. If he does get more assertive where his mother is concerned, it'll be something he deals with down the road when he develops more confidence in other parts of his life.

Is it cold in here?:
He needs the band. He needs to practice leadership, and the band is the perfect place to do it. He needs a success in his life, and building a good band would be the best kind of success, the kind that comes from focused work. A "good band" means a skilled one: that's a success no matter how few shows they do. They have a chance now that Nat is gone.

Hinterfiend:
People keep saying him being upset over the Dora/Tai situation would make him either jealous, possessive or both. I fail to see the reasoning behind either of those assessments. It's a perfectly normal thing to not be ok with a ex dating someone you have to see on a regular basis so soon after you're broken up. It has nothing to do with jealousy, it has everything to do with not rubbing salt in a fresh open wound. Especially is that close someone is in a position of authority over you and VERY prone to over-sharing.

Boxilar:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 24 Aug 2012, 21:06 ---He needs the band. He needs to practice leadership, and the band is the perfect place to do it. He needs a success in his life, and building a good band would be the best kind of success, the kind that comes from focused work. A "good band" means a skilled one: that's a success no matter how few shows they do. They have a chance now that Nat is gone.

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I agree. From what we've seen, his big hurdle seems to be confidence in his songwriting. I wonder if Sven would be interested in helping out, or even joining the band. He seems to have reached a personal crisis in that, while he is financially successful, he is unsatisfied artisticlly. Marten could gain confidence and learn from Sven about dealing with the music industry, and Sven could learn from Marten how not to be a douche. And to enjoy music for the sake of music.  Just speculating, not trying to dictate to Jeph on where his story should go. I'll enjoy the ride where ever it goes.

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