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WCDT: 2296-2300 (15-19 October 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Sidhekin:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 18 Oct 2012, 19:24 ---
--- Quote from: dreed on 18 Oct 2012, 10:47 ---in europe 'speedos' are just regular swimwear. so its always hilarious (and a bit sad) how americans make a big deal out of them. especially how people say they are horrified that they can see other men bulge.
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I don't tend to find cultural differences hilarious and sad. Its not a failing on anyone's part that 'speedos' are not a popular fashion in the US, and it sure as hell doesn't hurt anyone that we don't like them.
It could easily be reversed: Oh you poor sad Europeans with your lack of good fashion sense and obsession with showing off your junk. See how offensive that feels?
Why is it that the culture of the US is seen as an acceptable target?
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Perhaps because the culture in the US is demonstrated in this forum, while other cultures are merely brought up, whether as contrast to the demonstrated culture, or by the Americans themselves?
I'd offer another reversal though: Imagine if women were terrified to see other women's curves? (I don't think "bulges" would be the right word ...)
Bring on the burqas! :)
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: Sidhekin on 19 Oct 2012, 00:54 ---Perhaps because the culture in the US is demonstrated in this forum, while other cultures are merely brought up, whether as contrast to the demonstrated culture, or by the Americans themselves?
I'd offer another reversal though: Imagine if women were terrified to see other women's curves? (I don't think "bulges" would be the right word ...)
Bring on the burqas! :)
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I think you entirely missed the point of my last sentence. I don't think there is anything wrong with "speedos". I'm not about to call Europeans sad for not finding them offensive and/or finding them fashionable.
I just wouldn't wear one myself, and this mostly has to do with cultural fashion and says nothing about my modesty or who I am as a person, so I don't see why it should be "sad and hilarious" that I don't like them.
If another culture found bikinis offensive (and they do exist), I'm not going to call them sad and hilarious for having cultural differences.
Sidhekin:
Good on you.
But if another culture finds burqas sad and hilarious (and they do exist), are you going to take them to task over it?
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: Sidhekin on 19 Oct 2012, 01:21 ---Good on you.
But if another culture finds burqas sad and hilarious (and they do exist), are you going to take them to task over it?
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That is a false equivalence. Saying that a culture can choose for itself what it finds fashionable to wear is not the same as saying that culture is free to judge other cultures over the free choices of that culture.
Now, if you want to say that you find a culture that forces burqas on women offensive, that is different. But if they are choosing it for themselves, who am I to say they are wrong.
(Also, I would hardly consider the male bulge the equivalent of breasts. the "male bulge" is a primary sex characteristic, the breasts are a secondary sex characteristic.)
pwhodges:
The male bulge contains a primary sexual characteristic, but does not display it in the form that it naturally takes.
I find it curious when the same men who find the sight of a male bulge undesirable in swimwear also wear tight jeans.
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