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Zingoleb:
Well, it's also only partially true. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, yes, but in doing what he did he fractured the Republican party pretty damn heavily.

The Democrats, well, that's not untrue. But the Republican party and the Democratic party were both unrecognisably different in the 19th century compared to where they are now.

MLK was not affiliated with either party, and on top of that, he voted Democratic.

Also, Obama...well, he has some unsavoury policies (I wouldn't call him inherently good, but just better than Mittens - if I had to choose which one I'd want to be my dictator, I'd choose the one in power now), but I'd say he's actually pretty pro-minority. He works in ways that appear to be inclusive of all minorities, even backing the DREAM Act - unlike, say, the Republicans who were trying to prevent minorities from voting.

Whoever this person is has a bit of a hard-on for revisionist fantasies, just close enough to the truth to make people fall for it.

Gnomes2169:
I know that kid... well, technically he's 42 and I don't actually know him, but the posting style, the word choice and the complete disregard for change combined with what is admittedly a decent bit of charisma can only belong to this guy. He's a notorious troll from another site I've been on, but there is just enough uncertainty in whether he believes what he says or not that he was able to remain unbanned.  :x If death could be transmitted via the internet, this guy would have exploded a long time ago...

I've made so many arguments against him that at this point it just doesn't seem to be worth it anymore... >.> Yes, there are people this stupid out there, this is just one of the more vocal ones.

Is it cold in here?:
Anyone who wants to write about the racial attitudes of Republicans and Democrats and lectures others for their ignorance of history deserves no respect if he doesn't know about the Southern Strategy.

He's parroting something from the right-wing press anyway. I saw it go by recently but don't have the stomach to look it up. National Review maybe?

Blyss:
Still no answers on a few races here in AZ, among them the final count for Maricopa County Sheriff.  Penzone has already conceded, because of the separation on election night, but frankly, I think he was unaware of just how many votes were not being counted.  Had he known the actual number, I don't think he would have called it so early.  The fact is that a lot of the votes that 'may not be counted' for identification purposes, are the exact votes that could swing the race back in Penzone's favor, and in fact, a large part of those people registered specifically to vote against Arpaio.  And it was known before election day that they were going to.  It looks for all intents and purposes that they were held to different standards when it came to said ID's as well, considering that I dropped my early ballot, and never even had to SHOW an ID.  OF course, I don't live in south Phoenix, I live in a white bread, no crust neighborhood (as my wife likes to call it), and no one questioned me about if I was in the right polling place, or if I had even registered.

Even if nothing was done wrong by Arpaio, something was clearly being done to keep people from being heard.  It's very hard to ignore, and yet, a lot of people here are trying to do exactly that.

I think it's about time I get out of this state.  Was looking at moving to San Antonio anyway, maybe just sooner now.

Bluesummers:
As far as voting laws go, here in CT it's been pretty simple for as long as I can remember. You show up at your polling place (there are about 8-12 in each town), show your ID (photo ID has been required for years), and they check you off the registrar's list. You take your ballot, fill in the bubbles, put it in the fancy machine, and get a sticker that says you voted.

Before I was old enough to vote, I remember they had the large machines with the pull-crank, but showing up and ID'ing yourself has been the same procedure since before I was born.

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