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2012 Election
ackblom12:
Well, the closest you might get to that is the Libertarian Party, but to be frank they're all over the place on things. They follow a general thread of logic on individual rights, but it depends on how much you can stomach the party largely being run by wealthy white men who are calling for the dissolution of government and housing an awful lot of racism and sexism.
Gnomes2169:
YES! No constitutional amendment that would be hard as fuck to repeal for either voter ID or gay marriage... RE. FUCKING. JECTED. Fuck yeah.
Of course, the marriage thing still isn't legal, but after this I think that a certain state law will be challenged in the next year or two...
ackblom12:
Holy shit...
--- Quote ---Republicans Lose Supermajority in Texas House
AUSTIN, Texas - Republicans have lost their 102-member supermajority in the Texas House, opening the door for Democrats to slow or block the majority's conservative agenda.
Democrats have won more than 50 seats in the 150-member lower chamber of the Legislature. That means Republicans can no longer suspend the rules to push through legislation over the objections of minority Democrats.
Last year, Republicans had enough lawmakers to form a quorum without any Democrat showing up for work.
Democratic leaders have said they will use their increased strength to block conservative bills and demand compromise on public education and health care issues.
Republican lawmakers point out that they remain the majority party and will continue to demand less government spending and lower taxes.
--- End quote ---
Nikolai:
Can somebody please enlighten me as to why voter ID is a bad thing? I was under the impression that it was just to help prevent things like double voting and other types of fraud...
Redball:
--- Quote from: Nikolai on 07 Nov 2012, 10:20 ---Can somebody please enlighten me as to why voter ID is a bad thing? I was under the impression that it was just to help prevent things like double voting and other types of fraud...
--- End quote ---
It appeared to be a hurry-up solution in search of a problem. Double voting and fraud committed by voters by all accounts is miniscule. Voter ID may not be a bad thing in the long term, but to me the issue was the unseemly haste to put it into effect before this election that was so suspicious.
A lot of people, many of them on the margins in this country, are entitled to vote because, dammit, they're citizens. But they don't necessarily have the paperwork -- driver license, birth certificate, for starters -- to prove their citizenship, even if they've lived in, say, a little rural community all their life, or have lived in a large cardboard box in LA for a year or five.
Sure, those people may be shown how to fill out the paperwork and mail it to the right place, and have a return address to pick up the document. Or they might be required to make a trip to the nearest county courthouse -- with what vehicle?
Anyway, that's how I saw it.
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