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WCDT: 2323-2327 (19-23 November 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
henri bemis:
I understand the impulse to anyalyze every bit of media I like, but I can also see that it would be really hurtful to someone if they told me they were trans* and my response was "oh, NOW I see it! I'm going to scrutinize your body and point out all the imperfections I didn't even notice before!" Which is not to say I don't think there's value in going back through the comic, but I think Claire's words more than her appearance are better foreshadowing.
I loved this comic. Panel 5, in particular. So much said without dialogue! I may have squeed.
AngelofShadows:
I haven't seen this much discussion this quickly since the discussion thread during break up week (good times....good times. For me. It was funny to read. I imagine it was horrible for the mods)
I am overjoyed by the (mostly) mature discussion about what is not the easiest topic to discuss.
I am saddened by the lack of Psyduck.
I am always saddened by the lack of Psyduck.
:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
Tormuse:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 19 Nov 2012, 20:40 ---I hope we can treat Claire as a person and still play the over-analysis game.
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Hmm... while I applaud everyone's thirst for knowledge and enjoy over-analysis myself sometimes, and I can understand the position of, "she's a fictional character, so she won't mind," I can also understand the perspective that it seems a bit creepy to dissect Claire's every appearance like this, especially in light of the recent influx of trans people joining this forum because of this comic. I hope people can keep the discussion in good taste, because I can already foresee that line of conversation descending into angry arguments.
--- Quote from: docC on 19 Nov 2012, 16:41 ---The answer to these questions (Is he ftm or is she mtf? Pre-Op or Post-Op?) has a huge bearing on her identity. Since she (since we don't know for sure and I absolutely HATE to use they as a pronoun for a single person, I'll use the female form for Claire now) is not a real person that we can interact with there is no reference, like voice, habit or the content of a conversation, to learn about her identity.
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I think it's safe to call Claire "she." The fact that she used the phrase, "I'm trans" so matter-of-factly suggests that she has already transitioned to her target gender. (One way or another) I think that, if she meant that she was about to transition to a male identity, she would have used different words than "I'm trans."
St.Clair:
I think the twins assumption is due to their VERY similar appearance within the strip - honestly, how many panels in which they both appear are literal copy-pastes, not to mention the original concept art?
I'm not sure how well Jeph's art style can convey an age difference of only a few years (when both characters are physically-mature adults).
RyanW1019:
--- Quote from: henri bemis on 19 Nov 2012, 21:23 ---I understand the impulse to anyalyze every bit of media I like, but I can also see that it would be really hurtful to someone if they told me they were trans* and my response was "oh, NOW I see it! I'm going to scrutinize your body and point out all the imperfections I didn't even notice before!" Which is not to say I don't think there's value in going back through the comic, but I think Claire's words more than her appearance are better foreshadowing.
I loved this comic. Panel 5, in particular. So much said without dialogue! I may have squeed.
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I wouldn't say they were looking for "imperfections." At least, nobody has phrased it that way. They were just trying to see whether there was any noticeable foreshadowing in the art that might have allowed them to see this coming.
I might be off-base here, but my impression is that this forum tends to play the overanalysis game with every character and every comic. It's just getting on more people's nerves here because it's a very delicate subject that lots of people are intensely curious about due to a lack of knowledge.
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