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WCDT: 2352-2356 (31 Dec. 2012-4 Jan. 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
WAYF:
It just occurred to me that possibly the last time that Dora, Faye and Marten were all bouncing off one another like this, was just before the break-up. It's been too long. :)
Near Lurker:
--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 03 Jan 2013, 03:50 ---(and that traditionally "female" jobs like, for instance, midwifery, teaching, administrative work and shop work should be paid at an equal level to comparable "male" jobs like being a doctor, construction, being a solicitor and accountancy)
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Now hang on - look at what you're asking. In terms of the required skills, administration isn't really comparable to accountancy. While the same isn't true of shop work vs. construction, a construction site, no matter how well managed, should be worlds more dangerous than a properly run shop. These two became "female" professions due to a low estimation of women, not the other way around. As for the one that if anything stems from a mystic overestimate of women, midwifery, how necessary or useful it is at all is an open question, but it can't be denied that it's a highly specialized skillset compared to the much broader knowledge base required of nurses and doctors.
(Teachers and lawyers... well, that's a more interesting one.)
MillionDollar Belt Sander:
I am responding to Barymoo and At the risk of kicking over a bee-hive here:
I have yet, in all the years I've worked, to meet a woman who is willing to work on an equal level as her male counterpart.
"I'm sorry I can't do that it smells bad."
"Oh that's icky, do it for me."
"I'm having *issue* due to ____, I need accommodation."
And the ever popular using flirting/sex-appeal to get people to foist work off on others... along with the ever popular pretend-harassment/everything-is-offensive-accommodate-me types. This applies equally to office-work, as well as manufacturing and fabrication work
This is a cross-section of the population numbering in the thousands, it is across 20+ years of working, and my observations are backed up by many others across the region, state, country, internet.
Women want true equality? Stop being a weasel, roll up your sleeves and grease that drive-shaft. Yes it smells nasty. Yes you have to lift/twist/bend. Yes it can be interpreted as an innuendo. Get over it and get the job done then we'll talk equal pay.
I'm sure there are women out there who are more than willing to work as a true equal, I just haven't met any. :)
westrim:
--- Quote from: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 03 Jan 2013, 04:57 ---I am responding to Barymoo and At the risk of kicking over a bee-hive here:
I have yet, in all the years I've worked, to meet a woman who is willing to work on an equal level as her male counterpart.
"I'm sorry I can't do that it smells bad."
"Oh that's icky, do it for me."
"I'm having *issue* due to ____, I need accommodation."
And the ever popular using flirting/sex-appeal to get people to foist work off on others... along with the ever popular pretend-harassment/everything-is-offensive-accommodate-me types. This applies equally to office-work, as well as manufacturing and fabrication work
This is a cross-section of the population numbering in the thousands, it is across 20+ years of working, and my observations are backed up by many others across the region, state, country, internet.
Women want true equality? Stop being a weasel, roll up your sleeves and grease that drive-shaft. Yes it smells nasty. Yes you have to lift/twist/bend. Yes it can be interpreted as an innuendo. Get over it and get the job done then we'll talk equal pay.
I'm sure there are women out there who are more than willing to work as a true equal, I just haven't met any. :)
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I find your four spaces between sentences, and two after commas, very offensive. Off to the Kwalliso with you.
Akima:
I giggled, but... How large is the age-gap between Faye and her sister (who'd just failed her first year at college the last time we saw her, so 19-ish then, I suppose)? Faye's in her mid-twenties, so six or seven years? I wonder how many seven-year-olds are changing nappies?
--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 03 Jan 2013, 03:50 ---Now that, I find offensive.
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It set my teeth on edge too, but the article was discussing a government report that only addressed income inequality, and reasons for it, not job-satisfaction, self-actualisation or any of the other nice things at the top of Maslow's pyramid. Until all jobs are equally paid (unlikely and probably undesirable), making choices that lead to lower-paid employment is foolish, if the only thing you care about is the wage.
--- Quote from: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 03 Jan 2013, 04:57 ---Stop being a weasel, roll up your sleeves and grease that drive-shaft. Yes it smells nasty. Yes you have to lift/twist/bend. Yes it can be interpreted as an innuendo. Get over it and get the job done then we'll talk equal pay.
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Stop being a bully, stop assuming that only men are entitled to define the working environment, stop demanding that women accommodate men while offering no accommodation in return, and then we'll talk about whether anything other than bigoted contempt is being offered.
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