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What's So Terrible About Kids?

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Is it cold in here?:
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Calling them "awful mewling poo-larvae" and announcing an intention to use them as a food source is hardly neutral.

If you're thinking of the reactions of people on the forum, it's more precise to say some of them hate the idea of parenthood as opposed to hating children.

Barmymoo:

--- Quote from: Thrudd on 03 Jan 2013, 10:17 ---Children are Expensive as an excuse? That is more telling on personal priorities than anything.

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Yes, I'd agree with this. I personally do want children, very much, which will be no surprise to anyone who has been on this forum for more than five minutes and/or does not block avatars. But whether or not you have children should absolutely be based on personal priorities. This isn't a black/white selfish/selfless distinction situation - you can argue it is selfish to have children in an over-populated planet, you can argue it is selfish to not have children in order to be free to travel or whatever. Children are expensive. They are astonishingly expensive. One of the statistics brought up in the WCDT was that women who have children at 24 earn around £565,000 less than women who do not have children. That is half a million. That is a shit ton of money, and that isn't even including the actual tangible costs. It is totally a valid reason to not have children.

I don't think there is hate towards children, either in the comic or in the forum as a whole. Jeph doesn't want children, so naturally he has no interest in writing about them. He hasn't written any pet snakes either, and indeed none of the cast has a dog even though we know that he does. Not wanting to write about something doesn't mean you hate it. But if you aren't a children person, then it makes sense that the characters you create would be angled towards not wanting children, because that's the attitude you're most familiar with. The fact that Faye talks about maybe having kids in the future just shows that Jeph doesn't hate children so much that it blinds him to the fact that many people want them.

On the forum? Some people want kids. Some people don't. A very small minority actively dislike them. And to be fair, the number of children who display thoroughly unpleasant behaviour makes that unsurprising.

Ohf:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 03 Jan 2013, 10:59 ---Calling them "awful mewling poo-larvae" and announcing an intention to use them as a food source is hardly neutral.
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Making a fictional character say such things about kids doesn't mean there was "hate on kids" in real life. But that's what the original poster suggested. Jeph doesn't include kids in QC not because he hates kids but for the same reason why QC doesn't include elephants—it simply isn't about kids or elephants. Moreover ... QC obviously is just about to include kids. Sam is a kid after all, and there may be more of them to come in the future ...

So the question about "why there's hate on kids" after one character made a repudiative remark is just absurd.



--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 03 Jan 2013, 10:59 ---If you're thinking of the reactions of people on the forum, it's more precise to say some of them hate the idea of parenthood as opposed to hating children.
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Exactly.

lottie:
It's not his first comment.  The previous comic that brought it up was Dora again though, so I get that she's the child disliker.  Many moons ago she made a comment about her womb shriveling in horror when thinking of the idea that there could be a baby in it.  It just seems like this is absurdly insular existence.

Ohf:

--- Quote from: lottie on 03 Jan 2013, 11:47 ---The previous comic that brought it up was Dora again though, so I get that she's the child disliker.  Many moons ago she made a comment about her womb shriveling in horror when thinking of the idea that there could be a baby in it.
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Yeah—it's always Dora who is making remarks of this kind. This is exactly the reason why I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up being the first in her social circle to get pregnant ...  8-)

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